Soulcrusher_X
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Can a 59 do heavier stuff? I want something that can do heavy, but also clean up kinda nice. I figure lower outputs clean up better, but can they do equally well at heavier rock?
Can the 59 do heavy?
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Binnerscot
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Re: Can the 59 do heavy?
Yup, with a high gain amp...might have a little flub, but that may be what is needed.
There a few high output pups that have decent clean tones. I think the real place that low output shines over high output is mid gain tones...they just sound much more natural.
Yup, with a high gain amp...might have a little flub, but that may be what is needed.
There a few high output pups that have decent clean tones. I think the real place that low output shines over high output is mid gain tones...they just sound much more natural.
marcello252
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Re: Can the 59 do heavy?
Yes it can, but in the right guitar and with the right rig.
I don't think the SD-1 itself is very good for metal, although it can do wonderful hard rock sound. I'd say you need a pretty hot amp or at least a graphic Eq pedal after the OD
Yes it can, but in the right guitar and with the right rig.
I don't think the SD-1 itself is very good for metal, although it can do wonderful hard rock sound. I'd say you need a pretty hot amp or at least a graphic Eq pedal after the OD
TheLivingDead
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Re: Can the 59 do heavy?
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TimmyPage
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Re: Can the 59 do heavy?
They will do great with a high gain, relatively tight amp. You gain a lot of string clarity under high gain settings with lower output pickups. What kind of guitar is it going in?
Back in my metal days I used a strat that had a 59n and a PATB-3 in the bridge. The PATB is just a touch higher output than the 59, and matches well with it in sound but remains even tighter and just as clear under high gain settings. It's worth looking into if you have a trem spaced guitar.
They will do great with a high gain, relatively tight amp. You gain a lot of string clarity under high gain settings with lower output pickups. What kind of guitar is it going in?
Back in my metal days I used a strat that had a 59n and a PATB-3 in the bridge. The PATB is just a touch higher output than the 59, and matches well with it in sound but remains even tighter and just as clear under high gain settings. It's worth looking into if you have a trem spaced guitar.
IanBallard
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Re: Can the 59 do heavy?
It's a great pickup under high gain, surprisingly so. If you want it to smack you in the face, you might consider the pickup booster to pummel the input stage a little bit. I mean, if you have something like a 6505, adding some boost will give you that open crunch. Shut off the boost for cleans and it's chime heaven. Give it a shot!!!
It's a great pickup under high gain, surprisingly so. If you want it to smack you in the face, you might consider the pickup booster to pummel the input stage a little bit. I mean, if you have something like a 6505, adding some boost will give you that open crunch. Shut off the boost for cleans and it's chime heaven. Give it a shot!!!
Re: Can the 59 do heavy?
good example and dont forget the large mahogany body and i am sure the MESA MKIV's help! lol I Vote for the PAtb-3 for what the OP wants. It is a 59 with more horsepower.
Mark Morton from Lamb of God uses the 59 as far as I know.
He's getting some pretty heavy tones
good example and dont forget the large mahogany body and i am sure the MESA MKIV's help! lol I Vote for the PAtb-3 for what the OP wants. It is a 59 with more horsepower.
TheLivingDead
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Re: Can the 59 do heavy?
I am quite aware, sir.
Just saying... He did use it with tons of gain in many many recordings.
I am quite aware, sir.
Just saying... He did use it with tons of gain in many many recordings.
Petrovsk Mizinski
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Re: Can the 59 do heavy?
Heavier?
Black Sabbath?
Megadeth?
Technical death metal from the last few years?
Sure, it'll do the classic stuff and definitely stoner metal, but it will definitely not keep up with an EMG 81 (perhaps the AHB-3, but I've never heard one) in a setting where super tightness and modern levels of heavily saturated gain is required.
The JB is fairly cool.
Not EMG 81 tight, but not as loose as they'd have you believe and a great lead pickup. Cleans are great when split.
However, is quite picky about body woods.
I definitely respect Dime as a player, but his tone was never particularly conducive to sitting well in the mix (at least from the Pantera stuff, never heard the Damageplan record)
Heavier?
Black Sabbath?
Megadeth?
Technical death metal from the last few years?
Sure, it'll do the classic stuff and definitely stoner metal, but it will definitely not keep up with an EMG 81 (perhaps the AHB-3, but I've never heard one) in a setting where super tightness and modern levels of heavily saturated gain is required.
The JB is fairly cool.
Not EMG 81 tight, but not as loose as they'd have you believe and a great lead pickup. Cleans are great when split.
However, is quite picky about body woods.
I definitely respect Dime as a player, but his tone was never particularly conducive to sitting well in the mix (at least from the Pantera stuff, never heard the Damageplan record)
marvelous_seven
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Re: Can the 59 do heavy?
Just a quick question man,what kind of body woods that usually works with this classic baby?
I'm guessing Les Paul since it was designed to replicate 50s PAF
Just a quick question man,what kind of body woods that usually works with this classic baby?
I'm guessing Les Paul since it was designed to replicate 50s PAF
Jolly_Rancher
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Re: Can the 59 do heavy?
Uh, any pickup that functions will make sound through a high gain amp....
but if you want to approach ideals, then the 59 for metal is clearly not the one to use.
The Duncan Distortion sounds good clean, really good split clean similar to a 59 I think. That was the neck DD I had. Haven't tried a bridge. And, of course, they are F'ing AWESOME under high gain. They really add some nice harmonics under high gain because of the resonant peak, and whatever else SD magic is going on under there.
Uh, any pickup that functions will make sound through a high gain amp....
but if you want to approach ideals, then the 59 for metal is clearly not the one to use.
The Duncan Distortion sounds good clean, really good split clean similar to a 59 I think. That was the neck DD I had. Haven't tried a bridge. And, of course, they are F'ing AWESOME under high gain. They really add some nice harmonics under high gain because of the resonant peak, and whatever else SD magic is going on under there.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Re: Can the 59 do heavy?
How does the Duncan Distortion compare side by side with an 81 for tightness?
Anyone compared side by side?
How does the Duncan Distortion compare side by side with an 81 for tightness?
Anyone compared side by side?
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MonkeyDungologist
Re: Can the 59 do heavy?
we are talking bridge, right?
looking at the OP's sig, i think he can be quietly confident that he'd be able to get dirty enough with a 59b. get a couple of spare mags just in case ; ]
Petrovsk, perhaps a modded invader would be more what you're looking for? for that fast attack tightness thing, i don't think 1010 slugs and fillisters are enough. need rails or 12 short screws, i reckon.
i keep wondering if you'd like a ceramic full shred more...
we are talking bridge, right?
looking at the OP's sig, i think he can be quietly confident that he'd be able to get dirty enough with a 59b. get a couple of spare mags just in case ; ]
Petrovsk, perhaps a modded invader would be more what you're looking for? for that fast attack tightness thing, i don't think 1010 slugs and fillisters are enough. need rails or 12 short screws, i reckon.
i keep wondering if you'd like a ceramic full shred more...
Jackson Distortion
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Re: Can the 59 do heavy?
Heavy Rock in the bridge and neck. Barely in the neck for much heavier though. Hated it in the bridge for heavy distortion; even in standard tuning.
Screw what they say about lower output pickups being better under high gain than higher output pups. That old wives tale needs to be smacked in the face.
Heavy Rock in the bridge and neck. Barely in the neck for much heavier though. Hated it in the bridge for heavy distortion; even in standard tuning.
Screw what they say about lower output pickups being better under high gain than higher output pups. That old wives tale needs to be smacked in the face.
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