Can't believe I only learnt about this lady today
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eclecticsynergy
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Re: Can't believe I only learnt about this lady today
She may be less familiar to newer generations of players, I guess. But to us oldtimers Carol has been a household name for a very long time.
She may be less familiar to newer generations of players, I guess. But to us oldtimers Carol has been a household name for a very long time.
marcboomer
Bass Player @ Seymour Duncan
Re: Can't believe I only learnt about this lady today
I enjoyed re-hearing about Carole for the ump-teenth time, but wasn't "I Was Made to Love Her" by James Jamerson? There's a ton of great Carole lines to listen to like "Good Vibrations" and so many more....
I enjoyed re-hearing about Carole for the ump-teenth time, but wasn't "I Was Made to Love Her" by James Jamerson? There's a ton of great Carole lines to listen to like "Good Vibrations" and so many more....
Bass_Medic_05
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Re: Can't believe I only learnt about this lady today
Nice video
Nice video
akio
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Re: Can't believe I only learnt about this lady today
There are quite a few songs where she and another artist have claimed to have played on. The biggest was Jamerson, but check this out.
For more about the history of the LA studio scene of her era, buy and watch "The Wrecking Crew". Absolutely fascinating.
There are quite a few songs where she and another artist have claimed to have played on. The biggest was Jamerson, but check this out.
For more about the history of the LA studio scene of her era, buy and watch "The Wrecking Crew". Absolutely fascinating.
regan
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Re: Can't believe I only learnt about this lady today
I find this quite tragic really, I always thought Jamerson played on the majority of the Motown records & remain to do so but without actually being there in the room at the time, you'll never know 100%.
I can only hope Carol played alternate versions of the same songs (b sides & demos perhaps) at similar times & this is where the confusion lies, otherwise she may be taking credit for a dead guy's work.
Like I mentioned I only recently learnt of her but can already tell that despite both being very talented their style & tones contrasted Carol being tight & punchy while James looser & 'flubbier'
It's a shame her legacy is secure without rightly or wrongly claiming other cuts, I hope that she's genuinely mistaken otherwise it's a pretty rotten way to behave.
I find this quite tragic really, I always thought Jamerson played on the majority of the Motown records & remain to do so but without actually being there in the room at the time, you'll never know 100%.
I can only hope Carol played alternate versions of the same songs (b sides & demos perhaps) at similar times & this is where the confusion lies, otherwise she may be taking credit for a dead guy's work.
Like I mentioned I only recently learnt of her but can already tell that despite both being very talented their style & tones contrasted Carol being tight & punchy while James looser & 'flubbier'
It's a shame her legacy is secure without rightly or wrongly claiming other cuts, I hope that she's genuinely mistaken otherwise it's a pretty rotten way to behave.
marcboomer
Bass Player @ Seymour Duncan
Re: Can't believe I only learnt about this lady today
I tend to think that it's not Carole's fault for the discrepancy, but the bass player's mistake from the video posted.
I tend to think that it's not Carole's fault for the discrepancy, but the bass player's mistake from the video posted.
Myaccount876
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Re: Can't believe I only learnt about this lady today
She also claims to have played on "Light My Fire", but Robby Krieger has said Larry Knetchtel's - not her - playing ended up on the song.
She also claims to have played on "Light My Fire", but Robby Krieger has said Larry Knetchtel's - not her - playing ended up on the song.
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HiFiRebel
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Re: Can't believe I only learnt about this lady today
Ray's left hand was the only bass when they were live. She played on Light My Fire for the Gabor Szabo version of the song.
Don't let a guy trying to sell his book tarnish her reputation. She was a pioneer and one of first of few women to break through that glass ceiling in rock and roll. At over 10K recordings I would hardly call her a liar.
The author contends that the versions she played on were remakes of the orignal hits and therefore don't count. Including Marvin Gaye's Ain't No Mountain, which was a hit all on it's own.
Ray's left hand was the only bass when they were live. She played on Light My Fire for the Gabor Szabo version of the song.
Don't let a guy trying to sell his book tarnish her reputation. She was a pioneer and one of first of few women to break through that glass ceiling in rock and roll. At over 10K recordings I would hardly call her a liar.
The author contends that the versions she played on were remakes of the orignal hits and therefore don't count. Including Marvin Gaye's Ain't No Mountain, which was a hit all on it's own.
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I get defending Jameson, but there were alternate versions done in the same time period of many Motown songs. And there were a lot of bass players during that time. Nothing but respect for all of them, but I think books being sold were more important than the truth.
I get defending Jameson, but there were alternate versions done in the same time period of many Motown songs. And there were a lot of bass players during that time. Nothing but respect for all of them, but I think books being sold were more important than the truth.
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I don't mean to sound harsh. I apologize for that. The vast majority of her claims are valid and real. A few of them seem suspect and that writer has used it to tarnish her legacy while promoting his book at the same time. I could be wrong, but that is how it looks to me.
I don't mean to sound harsh. I apologize for that. The vast majority of her claims are valid and real. A few of them seem suspect and that writer has used it to tarnish her legacy while promoting his book at the same time. I could be wrong, but that is how it looks to me.