Celestion releases new A type speaker

[Animal]

Celestion has a stab at an American voiced speaker. :reporter:

http://celestion.com/product/144/atype/

Marketed as a slightly relaxed/mellow alternative to the strident top-end "American" tones are known for. Not particularly high-powered at 50 watts.

Also of interest is the 90th Anniversary Limited Edition G12-35XC. It's supposedly a tribute to the "pulsonic" cone era tone. Not sure if it leans to the G12M or G12H side of things. They're being a bit cryptic on what it's based on.

 

[CTN]

Re: Celestion releases new A type speaker

interesting! wouldn't mind hearing these.

I think it's good that they're finally being creative and putting out new models instead of just rehashing the old standards.

 

[zzmoore]

Re: Celestion releases new A type speaker

interesting! wouldn't mind hearing these.

I think it's good that they're finally being creative and putting out new models instead of just rehashing the old standards.

Yeah, my issue with Celestion (besides their prices) has always been their perpetual Shell Game of speaker name changes, that seem to be given to the same, or very similar speakers. Seems like for the last 3 decades they have made 20 speakers out of the same 4.
A bit of an exaggeration perhaps...but you get my drift.
good luck to them

 

[marvar]

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Yeah, my issue with Celestion (besides their prices) has always been their perpetual Shell Game of speaker name changes, that seem to be given to the same, or very similar speakers. Seems like for the last 3 decades they have made 20 speakers out of the same 4.
A bit of an exaggeration perhaps...but you get my drift.
good luck to them

This sound just like Gibson!

 

[Zombiwoof]

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When the Celestion Classic Lead 80 first came out, they described it in their advertising as an "American Sound" speaker (I guess because it doesn't have the common hi-mid peakiness of most Celestions. After a few years, they stopped saying that. So they have attempted to make American-sounding speakers in the past. We put a CL-80 in my brother's Fender 1-12 combo, and it did sound really good in there. Don't know why they stopped referring to it as American-sounding, though.

Al

 

[IMENATOR]

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Can someone please clarify what does american or british means for speakers? I had no idea the speaker would put its own color/feel to the final tone and I was under the sumption that a great speaker is meant to be kind of HiFi and flat EQ in order to properly reproduce the outcome of the amplifier so it was the amp section (not the speaker) that would imprint the tonal character. That would also explain why amp modelers allow you to select head and cabinets

 

[Rockstar216]

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Can someone please clarify what does american or british means for speakers? I had no idea the speaker would put its own color/feel to the final tone and I was under the sumption that a great speaker is meant to be kind of HiFi and flat EQ in order to properly reproduce the outcome of the amplifier so it was the amp section (not the speaker) that would imprint the tonal character. That would also explain why amp modelers allow you to select head and cabinets

Usually American sound is the mids aren't as prominent and a bit more bass and treble. British has more mid focus.

As for hifi flat EQ most guitarist are so used to the classic speakers they consider a flat EQ non desirable. It's the same thing with pickups. Me personally I like the clarity and flat EQ but many don't.

 

[zzmoore]

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Can someone please clarify what does american or british means for speakers? I had no idea the speaker would put its own color/feel to the final tone and I was under the sumption that a great speaker is meant to be kind of HiFi and flat EQ in order to properly reproduce the outcome of the amplifier so it was the amp section (not the speaker) that would imprint the tonal character. That would also explain why amp modelers allow you to select head and cabinets

Rock star gives you the ostensible explanation above...he did a good job.
But the whole idea is misleading.
Speakers have a frequency response, and that is how they need to be discussed...American vs. British tells just about nothing.
Just like the way that to some people Dark = Warm...Bright = Shrill ...Scooped = Blanket over the speaker.
It all changes with guitar, amp circuit, player and speaker, and the room and volume knob.
It is so important to collect several different speakers as you progress...Never sell a speaker.
Guitar speakers are completely the opposite of Hi-Fi. If you look at any guitar speaker chart, you will see it is pretty much dead after 6k. It is what happens between 100 and 6k that is important.
good luck

 

[synzzzer]

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I'm glad they are finally getting around to it. I know Eminence has been making their "British Series" speakers for some time now. It's about time Celestion brought out something new.

 

[Animal]

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I had no idea the speaker would put its own color/feel to the final tone and I was under the sumption that a great speaker is meant to be kind of HiFi and flat EQ in order to properly reproduce the outcome of the amplifier so it was the amp section (not the speaker) that would imprint the tonal character.

Some of most sought after speakers are very coloured sounding and are the opposite of HiFi. Alnico Blue and G12M for example. Many "classic" tones are as much dependent on the speaker as are they are on the amplifier.

 

[GuitarStv]

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I had no idea the speaker would put its own color/feel to the final tone and I was under the sumption that a great speaker is meant to be kind of HiFi and flat EQ in order to properly reproduce the outcome of the amplifier so it was the amp section (not the speaker) that would imprint the tonal character.

In my experience, the speaker and cabinet makes a pretty drastic difference in the sound that you hear. Run an amp through one eight inch speaker, and then through a full stack . . . wildly different sounds. Now take an EL-34 amp and run it through a guitar cab, then take a 6L6 amp and run it through the same cab . . . if you set the gain to the same level, you're probably not going to hear as big a difference than with the speaker switch.