Charvel becoming a guitar company for the elite?

arvid4prez

arvid4prez

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As many of you probably noticed Charvel and Jackson officially split ways last year or so (after being bought by Fender).

So a couple of weeks ago I bump across their website (lookin for an all-round guitar to mod). These days they advertise themselves as "The Original Hot Rod Guitar". The San Dimas looked quite good, had amazing specs, so I searched for pricings...

All prices were around 2K (srp). What the **** is that about? That's almost Gibson pricy! :saeek:

Or am I mistaken and has it always been like this?
 
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I've seen them for that much since before the summer.
 
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arvid4prez said:
As many of you probably noticed Charvel and Jackson officially split ways last year or so (after being bought by Fender).
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False. They are still the same company (JCMI = Jackson Charvel Musical Instruments), the guitars are still made by the same people in the same shop on the same machines, the same way it´s been for the last 20 years (You could ALWAYS get a USA Charvel, but it was admittedly a Jackson with a Charvel Logo from the Custom Shop ;)). Last summer hte 25´th anniversary Strathead and Bullseye were reissued, this was only because being a "Fender Daughter" finally made it possible to license out the headstock and Body shapes. The idea haas been around a while, it just wasn´t a possibility ;)

The only thing that happened was that in April management decided to axe the import Charvels and start pushing Charvel as what it originally was, "The Original Hot Rod Guitar". So they removed the Charvels from the Jackson website altogether and launched www.charvel.com in June. They even spent a horrendous sum so that the City of San Dimas would give them the old P.O. Box number back (IIRC it was being used for some sort of city hall schtick for the last 10 years...)

BTW, the Fender Takeover was Oct 2001 ;)

So a couple of weeks ago I bump across their website (lookin for an all-round guitar to mod). These days they advertise themselves as "The Original Hot Rod Guitar". The San Dimas looked quite good, had amazing specs, so I searched for pricings...

All prices were around 2K (srp). What the **** is that about? That's almost Gibson pricy! :saeek:

Or am I mistaken and has it always been like this?
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All Jackson USA guitars have always listed at above 2k, only Imports ever had an MSRP below that. But the typical dealer sells them for about 30-40 % off list, and that´s a bigger knockdown than most other USA Manufacturers wholesale prices allow their dealers to make, spreading the gorge even wider ;)

And they´re still some of the cheapest USA guitars available, with by far some of the best workmanship and general build quality of ANY company :smoker:

I´ll have a pointy bullseye with v-trem as soon as I can afford one, and I´m the last person on this planet that needs another Jackson (with the possible exception of some of my peers over at www.jcfonline.com :D:D:D
 
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Zerberus said:
All Jackson USA guitars have always listed at above 2k, only Imports ever had an MSRP below that. But the typical dealer sells them for about 30-40 % off list, and that´s a bigger knockdown than most other USA Manufacturers wholesale prices allow their dealers to make, spreading the gorge even wider
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Problem is, for us Europeans (the main land anyway, don't know about UK) the street price is around the list price + 10%. So if a guitar is listed at 2K for you guys, you're one lucky b*stard if you can find it for that price over here (hence my great disappointment...).

Also my main point is that in their line up ALL models are listed at 2K, no budget models. That's a damn shame.
 
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arvid4prez said:
Problem is, for us Europeans (the main land anyway, don't know about UK) the street price is around the list price + 10%. So if a guitar is listed at 2K for you guys, you're one lucky b*stard if you can find it for that price over here (hence my great disappointment...).

Also my main point is that in their line up ALL models are listed at 2K, no budget models. That's a damn shame.
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Take a GOOOD look at where I am, bro. No UK or USA schtick here, I´m as mainland Europe as it gets :friday:

Just do what I do: Order from Kevin Easton at www.eastonguitars.com

Tell him Zerb from the JCF sent ya ;)

Then you get a GREAT USA price, plus a bit of shipping, plus customs. In Germany with the total of 20% extra I have to pay for Customs I still end up about 20% off USA list (which btw is about 20% less than most european MSRPs), which is an unbelievable deal considering how inflated Gear prices are over here (BTW, I´ve never bought a single axe new here in Europe, too expensive ;))
 
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Good info, Zerb. Do you know if the San Dimas location will show their facility to the general public? It's about 35 minutes from where I live, and it would be a cool shop to visit. I've always been fascinated by some of these successful boutique companies that become name brands by reputation. G&L, Anderson, Charvel/Jackson, and Schecter, in particular. All of them are fairly close, so I should use any days off to try and visit them.
 
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One thing many Charvel enthusiasts don´t know: The San Dimas address always has been (and probably always will be) a P.O.Box number. There was never, ever a physical plant in SD.

The Original Plant (Originally Charvel´s Guitar Repair) was in Azusa, CA, in 1986 they moved to Ontario. That´s where they were until late 2k2, when they moved to Corona, California ;)
 
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Kinda a side bar: I been saving up for one of the Imports. Seemed pretty cool loaded with duncans and all, and to top it off, AMS offered them a a smooth closeout price. But, as my luck would have it, they are gone and Ive about got all the $$. There is a local shop in my town that has a few of them in. One has Duncan Live wires in it, but a standard trem. The want $1800 for them. (I kid you not!!!)
 
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BloodRose said:
Kinda a side bar: I been saving up for one of the Imports. Seemed pretty cool loaded with duncans and all, and to top it off, AMS offered them a a smooth closeout price. But, as my luck would have it, they are gone and Ive about got all the $$. There is a local shop in my town that has a few of them in. One has Duncan Live wires in it, but a standard trem. The want $1800 for them. (I kid you not!!!)
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WHAT?????

They must be on crack, man. And pretty good crack at that.:D:D:D The newer charvel imports LISTED at under 800 bucks ;)

Try www.eastonguitars.com or www.vwallguitars.com , they may still have a few ;)
 
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charvel makes awesome guitars.

and since they started the usa line, i likeem even better!!

they'ree by far my favorite company


btw, greetings from my 4th period computer class at school :D
 
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Those original San Dimas (Azusa?) guitars had great necks that were a nice rounded C.
When they started cranking out those Charvel/Jackson imports in the late 80's is when they started using the flatter/thinner necks. Ewww! What a mistake. At least Jackson USA held their ground with the better necks.
 
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Zerberus said:
One thing many Charvel enthusiasts don´t know: The San Dimas address always has been (and probably always will be) a P.O.Box number. There was never, ever a physical plant in SD.

The Original Plant (Originally Charvel´s Guitar Repair) was in Azusa, CA, in 1986 they moved to Ontario. That´s where they were until late 2k2, when they moved to Corona, California ;)
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MMMM...MY PARENTS LIVE IN CORONA, CA ...I SHOULD SEE IF THEY HAVE FACTORY TOURS ....ITS ALL YOU DOG GONNE JACKSON PLAYERS MAKING ME GAS FOR EM..... :offtopic: SORRY DIDNT MEAN TO HIGHJACK THIS THREAD.
 
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And Thanks Again Zerb For Your Expert Information ....you Are Easily One Of My Top 5 Guys On This Forum....anyways...off Topic Again
 
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Easton is out except a couple of used ones that arent what I want. (Standard trem) Ill try the other tho..

Yeah, I told them they were nuts. $1800. That is even their (discounted) price.. Told them I could get the same axe with AMS for $569.
 
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Zerberus said:
Take a GOOOD look at where I am, bro. No UK or USA schtick here, I´m as mainland Europe as it gets :friday:

Just do what I do: Order from Kevin Easton at www.eastonguitars.com

Tell him Zerb from the JCF sent ya ;)

Then you get a GREAT USA price, plus a bit of shipping, plus customs. In Germany with the total of 20% extra I have to pay for Customs I still end up about 20% off USA list (which btw is about 20% less than most european MSRPs), which is an unbelievable deal considering how inflated Gear prices are over here (BTW, I´ve never bought a single axe new here in Europe, too expensive ;))
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I noticed your location after I already posted... :smack:

Thanks for the info man, I will definately check out that link.

Thanks!...
 
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Gearjoneser said:
Those original San Dimas (Azusa?) guitars had great necks that were a nice rounded C.
When they started cranking out those Charvel/Jackson imports in the late 80's is when they started using the flatter/thinner necks. Ewww! What a mistake. At least Jackson USA held their ground with the better necks.
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Yep, San Dimas (P.O. Box) = Asuza (Physical) ;)

Actually, there were 3 profiles. One was a pretty thick V, which was actually very similar to the V-Profile on soma Charvel Acoustics such as the ATX. The Rounded C you speak of is similar to todays Soloist profile, aand ther was a wide C like my Charvel Reissue. Those are the Strathead profiles, the pointies were a bit different, but here I have to pass :(
 
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