Charvel promod style.

Interesting with the lock behind the nut, like Kahler...to get around FR patents, I guess.
 
Mincer said:
Interesting with the lock behind the nut, like Kahler...to get around FR patents, I guess.
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Mmmh, not so sure about that.... Gotoh had a license to produce FRs after all (Gotoh FR, Ibanez Edge series...).

But I do vaguely remember someting in an interview with Wayne in a magazine sometime in teh 90s (reading in teh 90s, I think the issue was from teh late 80s, though) where he more or less outright stated that he considered the Kahler locknut design to be superior despite the additional friction point,
1. because when properly installed there was no tuning shift when locking the nut (=less fine tuning) and
2. because having a traditional nut allowed much morea accurate setups as opposed to being forced to alter the fretboard radius to that of the OFR nuts.

And since OFR nuts at the time all had a 10" radius (except for OEM nuts like the 12" and 16" radius nuts used by Jackson /Charvel, Hamer, and others), and Gibson probably didn´t want to pay Schaller for the custom tooling of a 12" nut, a kahler style lock is kind of the only choice left. :friday:
 
In fact, now that I think about it, we´re talking about 1987 here as far as the WRC Gibson is concerned.......IIRC Custom radius OEM nuts dien´t become a thing at all until late 88 early 89, at least not from Schaller, which was a big part of why companies like Jackson with non-10" fretboards almost all used kahler nuts for a few years, even if the guitar had a (licensed) Floyd.... But Schaller didn´t make this trem, Gotoh did, and they may or may not have started selling them earlier, I don´t have that information.
 
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The extra friction from the nut kept my Kahler from returning to zero. I'm sure I could have set it up better in retrospect, but I could never get past it when I had the guitar. Also not a huge fan of the roller saddles. It sucks because as a longtime TOM player I tend to anchor the heel of my palm on the tailpiece, and the Kahler design feels way more natural to me than a Floyd.
 
Seashore said:
The extra friction from the nut kept my Kahler from returning to zero. I'm sure I could have set it up better in retrospect, but I could never get past it when I had the guitar. Also not a huge fan of the roller saddles. It sucks because as a longtime TOM player I tend to anchor the heel of my palm on the tailpiece, and the Kahler design feels way more natural to me than a Floyd.
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Then, no offense intended, either the nut wasn´t cut properly, or the locking nut was not installed at the correct angle.

I´ve had all sorts of problems with Kahlers over the past 30 years, as unlike Floyds if you don´t maintain them somewhat regularly, they absolutely will eventually sieze up on you and cause all sorts of issues. But the one issue I´ve never personally experienced is binding at the nut, not to toot my own horn but "probably" because I always cut my own and know exactly what I´m doing and why.

But for live use I generally still gravitate towards Floyd equipped guitars just because it´s just one variable less to worry about. :friday:
 
Zerberus said:
Then, no offense intended, either the nut wasn´t cut properly, or the locking nut was not installed at the correct angle.

I´ve had all sorts of problems with Kahlers over the past 30 years, as unlike Floyds if you don´t maintain them somewhat regularly, they absolutely will eventually sieze up on you and cause all sorts of issues. But the one issue I´ve never personally experienced is binding at the nut, not to toot my own horn but "probably" because I always cut my own and know exactly what I´m doing and why.

But for live use I generally still gravitate towards Floyd equipped guitars just because it´s just one variable less to worry about. :friday:
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I'm sure the nut wasn't cut right for the strings I was using. Sadly the guitar is no more. Maybe one day I'll get another Kahler on something and figure out how to make it work properly.
 
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