Cream Color Comparisons

the shop floor custom double cream under an unsoldered cover days are gone i believe. id kill for a double cream 9.4k antiquity, but alas i was told no last time i asked

Yeah, that's been over for quite a few years.
 
the shop floor custom double cream under an unsoldered cover days are gone i believe. id kill for a double cream 9.4k antiquity, but alas i was told no last time i asked

Can you order a zebra and a reverse zebra and do the dirty work yourself?
 
Can you order a zebra and a reverse zebra and do the dirty work yourself?

yes, and ive thought about that but buying two custom shop pups just to rip them apart seems a bit silly. still might happen though
 
What happened to that lawsuit against the double creme trademark, speaking of it?

DiMarzio won. But I remember Evan Skopp saying that if they had it to do over again, they'd know how to do it better. He implied they left something out, that may have changed the outcome.
 
Really????? You can send the result of lawsuit ?

Dimarzio try the close the file of lawsuit but gibson still make the double classic white pickups

Apologize for my bad English im the lawer italian

And i think the trademark of double cream dimarzio restrictions choice of buyers
 
Really????? You can send the result of lawsuit ?

Dimarzio try the close the file of lawsuit but gibson still make the double classic white pickups

Apologize for my bad English im the lawer italian

And i think the trademark of double cream dimarzio restrictions choice of buyers

I am sure you could probably read up on the lawsuit and explain it better than the non-lawyers on here.
 
yes, and i've thought about that but buying two custom shop pups just to rip them apart seems a bit silly. still might happen though

I wonder if there's a market for that? Not Custom Shop. Just a zebra and reverse zebra pair. You get a double Cream pair, and a standard black pair to sell, to offset the cost of the labor.

I'm sure there's folks in this forum with that skill. :wall:
 
I wonder if it would violate the trademark if someone were to offer that service- the pickups would have to be supplied.
 
ive done it before but not with custom shop pups, its not hard, just takes a bit of time. its the spending $360 on two pups just to pull em apart when i really only want one pup, that i really dont need since i have plenty of others and could wind something similar myself if i put the time in...
 
DiMarzio won. But I remember Evan Skopp saying that if they had it to do over again, they'd know how to do it better. He implied they left something out, that may have changed the outcome.

According to Evan Skopp, DiMarzio didn't really "win". Duncan would actually win then DiMarzio would appeal. At that time, DiMarzio had the means to keep appealing and Duncan didn't. I think the tables would be turned nowadays. To me, it's a really stupid trademark. When I see a Double Cream humbucker, I don't think of DiMarzio. That was the entire basis for DiMarzio's trademark. They said that Someone might want a DiMarzio and seeing ________ (insert brand here) as a double cream model, you might get another brand but really wanted DiMarzio.
 
^^^^ I agree completely. DiMarzio cut off their nose despite their face. I'll never buy DMZ pups. I've even dumped DMZ pups out of my guitars that came with them.

Edit: Dude! You're in St' Aug? We gotta get together. I still have that Candy Apple Strat I got from you. With Livewire Classic II's. My absolute favorite Strat.

(I did the Livewires. You didn't.)
 
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It looks to me like it's back up in the air. The latest info I saw is that Gibson filed a suit to cancel DMZ's trademark in Dec 2023 and they filed to dismiss the suit in Jan 2024. I can't find anything more recent than that.
 
I would assume Gibson has the money to keep fighting this. And they have quite the reason to want to win, too. Lots of historic guitars (and signature guitars) with that look.
 
I'm coming in a little late to the party and a little behind but here is a shot of all of the cream/zebra pickups I could dig up fro my collection today. For the most part they are all pretty similar but except for the donlis/guitar madness buckers (which i would be willing to bet are the same pus rebranded) none are exact. Interestingly the duncan antiquity, production, and custom shop all use slightly different shades as well. Not sure if that is by design or if they use what they have at the time and it isn't an exact science.

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From top to bottom the left row is a wolfetone, sd antiquity, sin bucker, bc rich, rio grande, and fleor
top to bottom right row pariah, duncan production, duncan custom shop, kramer import, guitar madness, donlis

ironically enough i didn't have any dimarzio kicking around to compare.
 
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