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crowscrown

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What does the custom 5 sound like in a Les Paul in comparison to a custom 5 in a strat both guitars having the custom 5 in the bridge position?
 
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A Les Paul has more mids and lower midrange "whomp" than a Strat and a thicker, warmer tone, overall. A Strat has a little steelier and clearer tone...and, I think, the bass response is a little better defined on a Strat. Maybe due to the 25 1/2" scale of the Strat vs. the 24 3/4" scale of the Les Paul. That's the diff you'll hear using the same pickup in a Strat vs. a Les Paul. Lew
 
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I did this with a Custom Custom and a swampash strat and Les Paul type maple/mahogany guitar. The LP will have more lower midrange whomp, and it will be brighter than the strat due to the maple cap. I think that's why I didn't the C5 in that guitar: it exagerated those sonic traits (whomp + bright).
 
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MattPete said:
I did this with a Custom Custom and a swampash strat and Les Paul type maple/mahogany guitar. The LP will have more lower midrange whomp, and it will be brighter than the strat due to the maple cap. I think that's why I didn't the C5 in that guitar: it exagerated those sonic traits (whomp + bright).

Really, you found your LP brighter than your Strat? I find my LP bright and full, but beefier than a typical strat.......that is a big reason I am starting to think LPs work better with lower value pots.
 
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I found the C-5 to be a little thick sounding in a Strat and it was overall darker sounding than the LP or the PRS that I had/have the C-5 in. I find LPs to be stronger on the bottom and the top and Strats to be middier with simular pickups.

I actually prefer the JB in a Strat over a C-5, better clarity and bite.
 
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Robert's comment on the strong bottom and top is the reason I don't like the C-5 in my LP.....I find an LP needs more mids from the pickup. An SG or Strat to me seems to have a lot of mids and highs.
 
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papersoul said:
Really, you found your LP brighter than your Strat? I find my LP bright and full, but beefier than a typical strat.......that is a big reason I am starting to think LPs work better with lower value pots.

Yep, brighter and bassier than my swamp ash strat. Both had identical pickups, pots, and caps in the signal chain.

It confirms my theory that a maple cap will yield a brighter sound than a maple neck with a rosewood fretboard (the specs of the guitars are below. The Les Paul-ish guitar is the VIP). I think the deal is that the bridge is mounted directly into the maple cap, whereas with a maple neck, the rosewood fretboard can dampen the effect of the maple (the fact that the maple cap is closer to the bridge pickup might also have an effect).

So, let's say you took two guitars carve from the same mold. Guitar A had a mahogany/rosewood neck, mahogany body, and a maple cap. Guitar B has a maple/rosewood neck and an all mahogany body. My bet is that A would sound brighter (but B would be snappier).
 
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Thx for the replies. Yeah, I have a Custom 5 wired for series/split/parallel in my Strat. I was just curious to hear it sounds in a Les Paul and also in that set up (series/split/parallel). Call me crazy but when the C5 is in split mode on my Strat, it almost sounds like a Tele to me. When it's in series it sounds like what I've heard others describe it as in a Strat. The kicker is how it sounds in parellel on my Strat, my God I love this tone! I have a Vintage staggerd in the middle so in position 2 it doesn't have the same power but still nice sounding.
 
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crowscrown said:
Thx for the replies. Yeah, I have a Custom 5 wired for series/split/parallel in my Strat. I was just curious to hear it sounds in a Les Paul and also in that set up (series/split/parallel). Call me crazy but when the C5 is in split mode on my Strat, it almost sounds like a Tele to me. When it's in series it sounds like what I've heard others describe it as in a Strat. The kicker is how it sounds in parellel on my Strat, my God I love this tone! I have a Vintage staggerd in the middle so in position 2 it doesn't have the same power but still nice sounding.

Which seems louder and higher in output so that it pushes your amp harder:
split or parallel?

Obviously the series would be loudest...


Thanks, Lew
 
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MattPete said:
Yep, brighter and bassier than my swamp ash strat. Both had identical pickups, pots, and caps in the signal chain.

It confirms my theory that a maple cap will yield a brighter sound than a maple neck with a rosewood fretboard (the specs of the guitars are below. The Les Paul-ish guitar is the VIP). I think the deal is that the bridge is mounted directly into the maple cap, whereas with a maple neck, the rosewood fretboard can dampen the effect of the maple (the fact that the maple cap is closer to the bridge pickup might also have an effect).

So, let's say you took two guitars carve from the same mold. Guitar A had a mahogany/rosewood neck, mahogany body, and a maple cap. Guitar B has a maple/rosewood neck and an all mahogany body. My bet is that A would sound brighter (but B would be snappier).

I do find the modern LP bridge bright! For that reason I am going back to 300k volume pots as the 500ks made the treble out of control and roling back tone helps but you lose cut. I like the pots wide open for heavy music.

I think the JB or Rio BBQ would be perfect in my LP with the stock caps/pots.
 
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The split position sounds brighter and twangier. The parallel sounds the same but thicker. The series, OMG! This position sounds very unlike the other two. I still don't have a good enough comparison as to how it sounds. So far I'll say it kinda sounds Les Pual-ish but then sometimes it sounds close to some semi hollow bodies I heard, then other times, well... just different. It's funny this sound totally goes away when in the other two positions or when coupled with the Vintage staggerd in position 2. By the way, in series it sounds the hottest and loudest. It still has power in parallel but more of a clear tone. I made another post where I said I would post some pics and clips. That I'll be doing really soon here. Plus I'm doing some tracking for some songs here soon and I'll post those.
 
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