Dammit! The dreaded stripped Floyd

Coma

Coma

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Stripped the hole where the whammy bar arm insert is attached. Now the edges of the mounting hole are completely smooth. Anything than can be done about it? The teeth on the insert are still intact.

EDIT: Hmm, far as I can tell, the base plate doesn't actually have matching teeth. That would explain why the arm insert keeps coming loose. Any suggestions how to fix it?
 

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Re: Dammit! The dreaded stripped Floyd

Schaller, and I could, but I'd rather not. Must be SOME way of increasing the friction between said parts.
 
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Baseplate seems to be the way to go.
It's not the insert that's busted, allbutromeo, it's the opening in the plate that's widened (I think).
 
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Slow-curing metal epoxy would fix it permanently (I'd wait 2-3 days before I'd use the trem agaiin). 5 EUR fix. Or you could widen the insert somehow (aluminum foil etc). A 3rd solution would be installing a v-coil insert. Done this with 2 of my floyds on the saddle intonation screws.
 
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So its the threads on the baseplate thats stripped? Never seen one strip there, what the hell did you do to it?

I've used the coil method as greekdude has for saddle intonation screws, but this hole is much bigger...
 
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Kamanda~SD said:
So its the threads on the baseplate thats stripped? Never seen one strip there, what the hell did you do to it?

I've used the coil method as greekdude has for saddle intonation screws, but this hole is much bigger...
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Yes. And not sure it's me. The guitar is from 1989, I've only owned it since April. Although I do tend to tighten the arm down HARD. That never caused any issues with my other floyded axes, though. In fact, far as I can tell, there shouldn't be any corresponding teeth on the base plate to begin with. So I'm somewhat confused.
 
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Schaller standard double locked trem (not the lockermeister).
 
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I literally had one of these completely apart a few days ago...I don't really see how anything is 'stripped' then? Do you have a picture of YOURS? I think I may be confused.

Maybe it's just lose? Did you tighten the allen key underneath?
 
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The hole in which the insert for the arm fits does have small vertical ridges/teeth, not so much pitched threads like the bar itself, and the insert itself should have a matching set. If the insert was hammered in, that means the teeth were not aligned. On the other hand, if someone tightened the bejeesus out of the collar and continued to spin the bar, it may eventually have spun the insert, shearing off the teeth.
They're similar to but not as deep as the teeth on the bridge post inserts.

Wrap the insert in Teflon/pipe thread tape and jam it in there. Epoxy will be a permanent solution but in the event the collar breaks or otherwise needs to be replaced, you won't be able to do it easily, so tape is your best bet here. Anything you do to put more teeth in the hole will require an insert with larger teeth to match, which isn't possible without a machinist's equipment and skill. And really, if you don't already have those, it's just easier to replace the whole thing and keep the saddles for spares.
 
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DrNewcenstein said:
The hole in which the insert for the arm fits does have small vertical ridges/teeth, not so much pitched threads like the bar itself, and the insert itself should have a matching set. If the insert was hammered in, that means the teeth were not aligned. On the other hand, if someone tightened the bejeesus out of the collar and continued to spin the bar, it may eventually have spun the insert, shearing off the teeth.
They're similar to but not as deep as the teeth on the bridge post inserts.

Wrap the insert in Teflon/pipe thread tape and jam it in there. Epoxy will be a permanent solution but in the event the collar breaks or otherwise needs to be replaced, you won't be able to do it easily, so tape is your best bet here. Anything you do to put more teeth in the hole will require an insert with larger teeth to match, which isn't possible without a machinist's equipment and skill. And really, if you don't already have those, it's just easier to replace the whole thing and keep the saddles for spares.
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Oooh, thanks for the tip. Will try to find the tape. And yes, in all likelihood, something like that did happen at some point.
 
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Coma said:
Schaller standard double locked trem (not the lockermeister).
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stewmac isn't the cheapest place in town and they have complete schaller rigs for about $129. a new base plate should be reasonable

you'll have the assurance that the problem is gone.
 
Re: Dammit! The dreaded stripped Floyd

I live in Yurop , so if I were to buy, I'd order it straight from Schaller. They're cheaper than every distributor and their customer service is super friendly.
 
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