deluxe reverb reissue
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Bludave
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Re: deluxe reverb reissue
Its a decent amp, but IMHO you would do better if you searched for a SF DR. The early silvers are awesome amps and they are priced just slightly more. More dependable. The DRRI has the tube sockets mounted on PC boards. This is not a bad thing in itself, but Fender uses a lower grade PC board than what should be used. Its to thin and when they heat up they can warp and cause some loos solder joints. (can make the amp noisey).
As far as tone. Its a really good sounding amp as long as you don't have to play in to large of a room. Its 22W so once the volume gets over 4½ to 5 it will loose a lot of headroom. If you can keep the volume on the amp at 5 or below it will stay fairly clean and if you turn the vloume up to 10 on the guitar it will distort naturally really well. The major complaint I hae with the eluxe is lack of headroom. Other than that its a great amp and I think every guitar player should have one!
I use a CE2, a DD3 a TS9 and a Wah with mine and all the pedals work nicely with it!
Its a decent amp, but IMHO you would do better if you searched for a SF DR. The early silvers are awesome amps and they are priced just slightly more. More dependable. The DRRI has the tube sockets mounted on PC boards. This is not a bad thing in itself, but Fender uses a lower grade PC board than what should be used. Its to thin and when they heat up they can warp and cause some loos solder joints. (can make the amp noisey).
As far as tone. Its a really good sounding amp as long as you don't have to play in to large of a room. Its 22W so once the volume gets over 4½ to 5 it will loose a lot of headroom. If you can keep the volume on the amp at 5 or below it will stay fairly clean and if you turn the vloume up to 10 on the guitar it will distort naturally really well. The major complaint I hae with the eluxe is lack of headroom. Other than that its a great amp and I think every guitar player should have one!
I use a CE2, a DD3 a TS9 and a Wah with mine and all the pedals work nicely with it!
Re: deluxe reverb reissue
It IS loud enough for bluesy or pop rock gigs. That is only provided that you are not up against a power house drummer with 26" kick drums lol
It won't take on a 4x12 too well, but it will hang with Vox AC30s etc quite well. It won't be thick enough for some hard rock. They take pedals very well, have a sweet break up when cranked in small to mid size rooms, and if you can mic thru the PA - well nothing else matters, no?
It IS loud enough for bluesy or pop rock gigs. That is only provided that you are not up against a power house drummer with 26" kick drums lol
It won't take on a 4x12 too well, but it will hang with Vox AC30s etc quite well. It won't be thick enough for some hard rock. They take pedals very well, have a sweet break up when cranked in small to mid size rooms, and if you can mic thru the PA - well nothing else matters, no?
Re: deluxe reverb reissue
I have one and have really come to like it a lot. As far as whether or not they are'nt as good as the SF ones I can't agree or disagree, only because I've never played thru one of the older ones to make a fair comparison.
As Bludave pointed out, the reissues start breaking up around 4-5 depending on what guitar (humbuckers/single coils) you're using thru it. Depending on how much clean headroom you need that can be a good or a bad thing. I use my Ric 330 thru the 2nd channel for the clean thing and for me it works great. I use a Boss OD-3 pedal for the neck pickup set to a mild overdrive and get a great tone going with the amps volume around 4. I use my Les Paul with a Bad Monkey OD pedal into channel 1 with the amps volume at about 5, then click on the pedal for that extra bit of push. I don't like the sound of OD pedals thru the amp with the volume set low where it's totally clean. Seems to sound best where it's breaking up a bit on it's own first, then let the pedal take over. Sounds more "real" or "organic". Beware of pedals that have a lot of high end to them, as the gain will come out sounding rather "fizzy."
I also have mine plugged into a seperate 1X12 closed back cabinet that I made and IMHO this really helped to tighten up the low end a lot.
Loud enough for gigging? I don't know because I'm just an at home player. But it get's pretty loud though, considering. Not Marshall stack loud but it will do depending on the situation. But I know lots of folks use them live with no problem and if needed they put a mic in front and run it thru the P.A. with great results. I've had mine for a year now and have had no problems. Great and versatile little amp.
I have one and have really come to like it a lot. As far as whether or not they are'nt as good as the SF ones I can't agree or disagree, only because I've never played thru one of the older ones to make a fair comparison.
As Bludave pointed out, the reissues start breaking up around 4-5 depending on what guitar (humbuckers/single coils) you're using thru it. Depending on how much clean headroom you need that can be a good or a bad thing. I use my Ric 330 thru the 2nd channel for the clean thing and for me it works great. I use a Boss OD-3 pedal for the neck pickup set to a mild overdrive and get a great tone going with the amps volume around 4. I use my Les Paul with a Bad Monkey OD pedal into channel 1 with the amps volume at about 5, then click on the pedal for that extra bit of push. I don't like the sound of OD pedals thru the amp with the volume set low where it's totally clean. Seems to sound best where it's breaking up a bit on it's own first, then let the pedal take over. Sounds more "real" or "organic". Beware of pedals that have a lot of high end to them, as the gain will come out sounding rather "fizzy."
I also have mine plugged into a seperate 1X12 closed back cabinet that I made and IMHO this really helped to tighten up the low end a lot.
Loud enough for gigging? I don't know because I'm just an at home player. But it get's pretty loud though, considering. Not Marshall stack loud but it will do depending on the situation. But I know lots of folks use them live with no problem and if needed they put a mic in front and run it thru the P.A. with great results. I've had mine for a year now and have had no problems. Great and versatile little amp.
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Skarekrough
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Re: deluxe reverb reissue
I own one....great sounding Blues amp.
Gig with it? Sure have! Great natural sounding breakup on it. I crank it to 7 and plug into a Les Paul and do my best Duane Allman impersonation. Nails it tone-wise!
I own one....great sounding Blues amp.
Gig with it? Sure have! Great natural sounding breakup on it. I crank it to 7 and plug into a Les Paul and do my best Duane Allman impersonation. Nails it tone-wise!
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Skarekrough
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They're not using them right...
The appeal of the DRRI is that they breakup around the same volume that's good for a small to medium sized club. The breakup is natural, no pedal is neccesary for that. It's a legendary sound; the Deluxe Reverbs have been the Holy Grail of Blues amps for years.
If you're trying to get more headroom out of the amp then you need to be micing it because you're either playing larger rooms than it's intended to be in without it being miced or you're a retard that believes a Distortion pedal is going to sound better than the natural breakup in which case you're using the wrong amp too begin with and should be hit in the head with a tackhammer for trying to make an amp do something it was never intended to do.
Scott makes a great amp, no doubt. And on any day of the week I'd take a hand-wired over a PCB. But for a mass-produced reissue amp it's a great pick.
ES350 said:
They're not using them right...
The appeal of the DRRI is that they breakup around the same volume that's good for a small to medium sized club. The breakup is natural, no pedal is neccesary for that. It's a legendary sound; the Deluxe Reverbs have been the Holy Grail of Blues amps for years.
If you're trying to get more headroom out of the amp then you need to be micing it because you're either playing larger rooms than it's intended to be in without it being miced or you're a retard that believes a Distortion pedal is going to sound better than the natural breakup in which case you're using the wrong amp too begin with and should be hit in the head with a tackhammer for trying to make an amp do something it was never intended to do.
Scott makes a great amp, no doubt. And on any day of the week I'd take a hand-wired over a PCB. But for a mass-produced reissue amp it's a great pick.
SirJackdeFuzz
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Re: deluxe reverb reissue
Great thread, as i might be in the market for one of these myself, very soon !
I understand it has no master vol.
So you can only get tube saturation, IF you crank this mother past 5.
I really like the natural break-up that an all valve amp produce !
Does any one have a problem with this ?
Can you mod it to have a vol. AND Master vol. knob, to get max natural break-up of the pre-amp tubes, if the master vol. is only at, say 4 ???
Thanks
Great thread, as i might be in the market for one of these myself, very soon !
I understand it has no master vol.
So you can only get tube saturation, IF you crank this mother past 5.
I really like the natural break-up that an all valve amp produce !
Does any one have a problem with this ?
Can you mod it to have a vol. AND Master vol. knob, to get max natural break-up of the pre-amp tubes, if the master vol. is only at, say 4 ???
Thanks
mind_transplant
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Re: deluxe reverb reissue
The DRRI isn't as well built as good vintage models, and deserves a speaker swap, but is still a great amp. They get used by blues, jazz, country, and rock players because they can pull off several great tones.
As Skarekrough said, they need to be miced for larger venues. While this may seem bad, it makes them great for recording: you can get them to break up naturally at reasonable volumes.
The DRRI isn't as well built as good vintage models, and deserves a speaker swap, but is still a great amp. They get used by blues, jazz, country, and rock players because they can pull off several great tones.
As Skarekrough said, they need to be miced for larger venues. While this may seem bad, it makes them great for recording: you can get them to break up naturally at reasonable volumes.
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Skarekrough
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Fair enough...
...but if they didn't know Scott or his reputation?
Scott's a great guy and I myself am looking forward to the day when I get an amp from him but let's be fair...the reputation of the Fender name has a little more mileage globally than Scott does.
gripweed said:
Fair enough...
...but if they didn't know Scott or his reputation?
Scott's a great guy and I myself am looking forward to the day when I get an amp from him but let's be fair...the reputation of the Fender name has a little more mileage globally than Scott does.
skyking
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Re: deluxe reverb reissue
thanks for the input guys. i play blues and classic rock stuff and ive always heard the deluxe has great tone. i plugged into a reissue at gc but wasnt able to really crank it, and i really have no experience with them. i thought that as popular as they are some of you guys would have some knowledge. i play a tele with some sd alnico pro II in it. would you get more headroom playing with a tele through the deluxe?
thanks for the input guys. i play blues and classic rock stuff and ive always heard the deluxe has great tone. i plugged into a reissue at gc but wasnt able to really crank it, and i really have no experience with them. i thought that as popular as they are some of you guys would have some knowledge. i play a tele with some sd alnico pro II in it. would you get more headroom playing with a tele through the deluxe?
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Skarekrough
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Alot will depend on various factors such as the tubes in it, the speaker in it, the output of the pickups, etc.
I have a Tele with a Little 59' in the Bridge and a Classic Stack in the neck. With the coils cut I can get the amp singing a little after 6. With my Les Pauls it's definetley pushing the tubes at that point. Bring it up to 7 and it's just a full on nice warm bath of tone! Cut the volume a touch to clean it up and adjust the tone knobs to taste.
I bought mine not knowing really anything about the reputation of the amps and was really dissapointed until one day when I snapped and cranked it up past 5 and suddenly it all made sense; it NEEDED to be pushed and when it did it sounded AWESOME.
Mine has NOS tubes in it and a 64' Jensen speaker in it. Other than that the thing is totally stock. Every year or so I play a Blues jam with a bunch of friends and as soon as the thing comes through the door it gets hijacked for everyone that wants to play through it.
Bring your Tele into GC and tell them you want to let it loose for a bit. Sit to the side of the amp and try and point it towards a wall about 10-20 feet off, just enough to give it some space and let it bounce back to you. Then go ahead and bring the volume knob up past 4 and go progressively higher until it starts to sing.
skyking said:
Alot will depend on various factors such as the tubes in it, the speaker in it, the output of the pickups, etc.
I have a Tele with a Little 59' in the Bridge and a Classic Stack in the neck. With the coils cut I can get the amp singing a little after 6. With my Les Pauls it's definetley pushing the tubes at that point. Bring it up to 7 and it's just a full on nice warm bath of tone! Cut the volume a touch to clean it up and adjust the tone knobs to taste.
I bought mine not knowing really anything about the reputation of the amps and was really dissapointed until one day when I snapped and cranked it up past 5 and suddenly it all made sense; it NEEDED to be pushed and when it did it sounded AWESOME.
Mine has NOS tubes in it and a 64' Jensen speaker in it. Other than that the thing is totally stock. Every year or so I play a Blues jam with a bunch of friends and as soon as the thing comes through the door it gets hijacked for everyone that wants to play through it.
Bring your Tele into GC and tell them you want to let it loose for a bit. Sit to the side of the amp and try and point it towards a wall about 10-20 feet off, just enough to give it some space and let it bounce back to you. Then go ahead and bring the volume knob up past 4 and go progressively higher until it starts to sing.
Re: deluxe reverb reissue
i have an original 65 NON Reverb Deluxe.... I have used it at band practices and it can hold it's own to a point.... if you have a drummer that is really loud with a bassist to match it may not be enough.. I've been in a few bands where some of the guys think it's Motorhead and the Deluxe will not keep up to that.
i tilt mine back on an angle like a monitor... point it at my head so if i have trouble i can hear myself.. mine has the original speaker in it and i have only had the volume up around 5-6 as i don't feel i can push that old speaker any harder.. i should get a new speaker for it and hold onto the original....
My Deluxe is extremely clean... very little break up at all... i use a few pedals in front of it... it sounds awful dry without the reverb...
I mostly save my 65 for home and for band and gig stuff use my Peavey C30... My C30 i push the snot out of and i don't worry about it blowing up like my 41 year old Deluxe.... I'd like to try out a new Deluxe Reverb Reissue oneday... I've seen guys using 2 in stereo a lot....
i have an original 65 NON Reverb Deluxe.... I have used it at band practices and it can hold it's own to a point.... if you have a drummer that is really loud with a bassist to match it may not be enough.. I've been in a few bands where some of the guys think it's Motorhead and the Deluxe will not keep up to that.
i tilt mine back on an angle like a monitor... point it at my head so if i have trouble i can hear myself.. mine has the original speaker in it and i have only had the volume up around 5-6 as i don't feel i can push that old speaker any harder.. i should get a new speaker for it and hold onto the original....
My Deluxe is extremely clean... very little break up at all... i use a few pedals in front of it... it sounds awful dry without the reverb...
I mostly save my 65 for home and for band and gig stuff use my Peavey C30... My C30 i push the snot out of and i don't worry about it blowing up like my 41 year old Deluxe.... I'd like to try out a new Deluxe Reverb Reissue oneday... I've seen guys using 2 in stereo a lot....
Bludave
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Re: deluxe reverb reissue
I have a '67 Deluxe Reverb ( 1st era SF). It is a great amp. The other guitar player I play with uses a DRRI, and quite honestly it sounds really good. Does it sound as good as the original? No I don;t think it does, but that is not to say thatit sounds bad. It is a very, very good amp for blues, probably one of the best! If you are playing with a hard drummer or another guitar who is playing thru a 50W amp it may be hard to keep it clean while you are trying to keep up. I love mine and even though I don't use it much I will probably never sell it. I also have a Super Reverb which I like a lot more The SR has a lot more headroom and is also a lot louder. You can play anything from Bluse to hard rock with it. I have heard of people using it to play metal also (not me I swear). The SR is 40W and has 4 10" speakers so it moves more air and it also has a lot more headroom!
I have a '67 Deluxe Reverb ( 1st era SF). It is a great amp. The other guitar player I play with uses a DRRI, and quite honestly it sounds really good. Does it sound as good as the original? No I don;t think it does, but that is not to say thatit sounds bad. It is a very, very good amp for blues, probably one of the best! If you are playing with a hard drummer or another guitar who is playing thru a 50W amp it may be hard to keep it clean while you are trying to keep up. I love mine and even though I don't use it much I will probably never sell it. I also have a Super Reverb which I like a lot more The SR has a lot more headroom and is also a lot louder. You can play anything from Bluse to hard rock with it. I have heard of people using it to play metal also (not me I swear). The SR is 40W and has 4 10" speakers so it moves more air and it also has a lot more headroom!