diffrences between R8 & R9 RI LPs
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Gearjoneser
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Re: diffrences between R8 & R9 RI LPs
I know I'd get flamed like crazy on the Les Paul Forum, but who cares, since their forum sucks so much I can't even log onto it....
Gibson has created a plan whereby they've chosen to gouge the upper market. Gibson guitars are mahogany with a maple cap. Any variation of that, plus or minus a little bit of handwork is NOT worth $4000 difference in price. They're outta control, in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, I love Gibsons, have owned many, and will continue to own both Historics and line assembly models, but I'm not fooled by their BS.
I've played $1800 Std's that are every bit as good or better than $6000 Historics. I've picked up 58 Reissues that blow away 59's and visa versa. We're talking about a product made out of wood, not a BMW, not the Space Shuttle Columbia, although Gibson would charge 175 Million for a Les Paul if there were a market of guitar suckers to support it. I guess my point is to play a bunch, pick one to buy, then install some Duncans, get the nut setup, since they don't bother to, and enjoy!
I know I'd get flamed like crazy on the Les Paul Forum, but who cares, since their forum sucks so much I can't even log onto it....
Gibson has created a plan whereby they've chosen to gouge the upper market. Gibson guitars are mahogany with a maple cap. Any variation of that, plus or minus a little bit of handwork is NOT worth $4000 difference in price. They're outta control, in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, I love Gibsons, have owned many, and will continue to own both Historics and line assembly models, but I'm not fooled by their BS.
I've played $1800 Std's that are every bit as good or better than $6000 Historics. I've picked up 58 Reissues that blow away 59's and visa versa. We're talking about a product made out of wood, not a BMW, not the Space Shuttle Columbia, although Gibson would charge 175 Million for a Les Paul if there were a market of guitar suckers to support it. I guess my point is to play a bunch, pick one to buy, then install some Duncans, get the nut setup, since they don't bother to, and enjoy!
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: diffrences between R8 & R9 RI LPs
I have a 3 pickup Historic Black Beauty and love it, but can tell you that it has a different tone than most other Pauls because of it's all mahogany body. It's dense in the lows and mids and more buttery on top, with slightly less attack. It's a beautiful sounding guitar, especially now, since I installed gold C-5B/59N/59N. It's so hard to beat that combo on LP's. I sometimes wish the 57 Reissue had a maple cap like the regular Customs, tho, just for a little more sparkle on the top end.
I have a 3 pickup Historic Black Beauty and love it, but can tell you that it has a different tone than most other Pauls because of it's all mahogany body. It's dense in the lows and mids and more buttery on top, with slightly less attack. It's a beautiful sounding guitar, especially now, since I installed gold C-5B/59N/59N. It's so hard to beat that combo on LP's. I sometimes wish the 57 Reissue had a maple cap like the regular Customs, tho, just for a little more sparkle on the top end.
dr.barlo
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Re: diffrences between R8 & R9 RI LPs
I agree with GJ %100! A Jimmy Page custom model cannot sound $7-8K better than a Rossington custom. It is all about the demand side, and the price differentials is not linearly related to the differences in quality.
While I see why gibson is charging (a little on the excessive side if you were to compare an R7 and custom built H150 goldtop, $700 of a difference) more for higher quality (like better sounding wood, aluminuum tailpiece, light wood thus bodies with no weight relief holes etc etc) I cannot find any justification for some of their crazy prices for them "collector's" items. A new LP for $10500 street price, c'moon! (JPs without the signature)
But then again, I ain't a collector!
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I agree with GJ %100! A Jimmy Page custom model cannot sound $7-8K better than a Rossington custom. It is all about the demand side, and the price differentials is not linearly related to the differences in quality.
While I see why gibson is charging (a little on the excessive side if you were to compare an R7 and custom built H150 goldtop, $700 of a difference) more for higher quality (like better sounding wood, aluminuum tailpiece, light wood thus bodies with no weight relief holes etc etc) I cannot find any justification for some of their crazy prices for them "collector's" items. A new LP for $10500 street price, c'moon! (JPs without the signature)
But then again, I ain't a collector!
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