Digitech customer service helps me stop electrocuting myself

BrianS.

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Here's a funny, and possibly informative story for you:

A while back I bought a used Digitech RP350 for use in home-recording with my computer. I used it a few times...works as advertised. I like the build quality and the fact that it is made in USA. Sounds decent, too.

So, one evening I head down to my man cave to do a little web-surfing. My guitar is sitting there plugged into my RP350, which still has the USB cable plugged in to the computer. I pick the guitar up and a doing a little jamming as a read the daily news. As I'm playing, I feel a sharp stinging in my hand where it rests on the bridge...I check for something sharp...nothing. Rest my hand on the bridge again...OUCH!! I realize I'm getting electrocuted! Bust out the trusty Fluke DMM and find about 38 volts AC on my strings! Keep in mind, the only thing plugged into anything with power is the USB cable.

So, I do a few experiments and measurements and then email Digitech customer service with my problem. Next day I get a nice long response explaining the power circuitry of the RP350 and one engineer's theory that my computer may have a bad ground and that is where my voltage problem is. So I measure from the USB cable's ground/shield to the basement floor (earth ground)...56 volts AC!

I had recently re-arranged the man-cave portion of the basement and had plugged my computer stuff into one of the old outlets that doesn't have an earth ground hooked up (floating ground) and for some reason there is quite a bit of voltage where there shouldn't be. I just now switched the computer stuff over to a properly grounded outlet and everything is fine.

I probably would never have noticed this stray voltage if I hadn't been barefoot when I was playing my guitar that one evening. Being barefoot, all that stray current was going right through me directly to ground.

So, a big thanks to Digitech customer service. They took the time to give me a thorough rundown of how their product works & then give suggestions as to where my problem may lie, even though it was obvious to them that the problem was not their product. They also knew that I had purchased the product used and that it was not under any kind of warranty.

TL;DR: Digitech customer service keeps me from electrocuting myself just because they are nice.
 
Re: Digitech customer service helps me stop electrocuting myself

so the RP
does it sound better ground lifted?

serious my GNX3K has bass amp models and Acoustic sims
does the RP as well?
 
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I think it has one bass model and maybe a couple acoustic sims. For the price, I think they are darn good units. I was really surprised at the quality & the fact that it is made in the USA. I haven't bought a Digitech product since I was a kid & bought some crappy overdrive pedal for $25.
 
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yea got mine when MF was blowing them out for $149 some years ago

thats about the time I decided to start playing again

friend at work got one too
he said when he got it
".... if you cant find a good sound on that thing somewhere, you're doing something wrong"
 
Re: Digitech customer service helps me stop electrocuting myself

^ Not getting electrocuted is the cornerstone of getting great tone from any of your modern effects processors.
 
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Glad to see you are at least able to appreciate the funny side of death...so there is an afterlife, that´s good to know. Sorry for your troubles.
 
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Digitech makes some top notch gear IMO. I went back to using a RP-50 last week with my Fender Studio 85 combo. I had traded my old one w/ my 1989 Peavey Bandit, to get that amp and to be honest, I missed the darn thing. I had owned it for over 10 years and it held up very well and was still going strong. Good thing you can get them for a very low price. I got my new one for only $20.00 plus $6.00 S & H w/ the adaptor at GC in Warwick , R.I. Works great and sounds awesome through my Fender .
 
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Learn it, know it, live it.

Plus never play barefoot where the floor could be a path to ground. Never touch radiators or metal water pipes if you're touching your strings or bridge.

Glad you didn't die.
 
Re: Digitech customer service helps me stop electrocuting myself

Learn it, know it, live it.

I do know all about that device, and use it regularly. Your advice is sound. I've never had any sort of problem like this before...it's pretty insidious. Keep in mind, I was NOT plugged into a unit with power. The wallwart was not plugged in at all.

The RP350 was "grounded" through the USB cable, and there is, for some reason, a voltage potential between the USB ground and earth ground, and I'm still not sure exactly why.

I never play through an amp with bare feet. I never work with any electrical equipment with bare feet. That's a simple rule that I learned a long time ago. I'm usually very cautious with electricity.

I'm glad I'm not dead, too. I'm also thankful for the quality customer service provided by Digitech!
 
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Reminds me of the time I accidentaly touched the part of the plug (through a plug type converter) when pulling it out with my amp, 240 Volts ... not so fun.
 
Re: Digitech customer service helps me stop electrocuting myself

Glad you didn't die.

No need to be so dramatic! Have you ever played an old amp? The amps produced in the 50s and 60s didn't have a ground, and most outlets didn't have a ground attached to them. You would get zapped now and again (oops, the ground reverse switch was in the wrong position again), but death was a pretty rare occurrence. It's more annoying than anything else. . .
 
Re: Digitech customer service helps me stop electrocuting myself

No need to be so dramatic! Have you ever played an old amp? The amps produced in the 50s and 60s didn't have a ground, and most outlets didn't have a ground attached to them. You would get zapped now and again (oops, the ground reverse switch was in the wrong position again), but death was a pretty rare occurrence. It's more annoying than anything else. . .

+1 just annoying. I've gotten electrocuted at plenty of gigs (lips touch a mic with my hands on my strings and zap)...Not really harmful, or even close to being deadly. Just kinda off putting.
 
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