DiMarzio Fast Track 2: Does mine sound right?

jrbowen81

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I'm pretty well confused at this point. Just this past weekend, I installed a full set of DiMarzios in my Strat (Chopper, Fast Track 1, Fast Track 2, 500k volume, 250k tones, neck on switch, coil split switch for neck & bridge). The Chopper is phenomenal and has me falling back in love with this guitar for sure. The Fast Track 1 is pretty nice sounding too. Very unique to my ears.

My issue with the Fast Track 2, however, is somewhat complex. Just bear with me...

So far, I can tell the FT2 is a pretty darn good pickup. It gives LOADS of output and tons of definition in my Strat. However, I wonder, have any of you found the Fast Track 2 to have sort of a "cocked wah" sound to it, especially when palm muting? Not sure what's going on there. I suspect it may be something to do with my particular amp rig (which will be mentioned below). IMHO, this pickup is not incredibly thick sounding in this guitar unless I tune it way down (which is not why I have this guitar. That's what my Les Paul is used for.) I also feel the need to majorly scoop my amp's mids and turn the treble pretty low. Otherwise it's VERY tight and aggressive, which isn't a bad thing by any means, but I still feel like I'm not getting enough "thump" from it. I know DiMarzio describes it as having lots of mids and bass, but I just don't think I'm hearing it. From the way it is described by DiMarzio and by others who use it, I envisioned my perfect hard rock/metal rhythm pickup for this Strat. Now, my impression is that maybe this is more of a lead guitarist pickup. For that, it's AMAZING! Unfortunately I'm not much of a lead player at all. I just don't know how well suited it is for someone like me who is more about thick, heavy riffage than solos.

Also take into consideration that my rig is EQ'd around my main tone that I get from my Les Paul, which is super thick sounding to begin with (Custom 8 in the bridge, C# tuning with 12-60 gauge strings) plugged into a 6505+ head into a Port City OS 2x12 Wave Cab.

As a side note, the funny thing that I discovered tonight is that it sounds unbelievable plugged into my Roland Micro Cube. Hahaha... On that amp, it's REALLY thick sounding. I just don't know why that's not the case on my actual rig, which is a much larger amp!

Of course I'm not trying to make the Strat sound just like the Les Paul, but I don't want to feel like I have to radically change my amp settings to accomodate the 2 different guitars.

Basically, I recognize that this pickup is flat out awesome for what it seems to do. I don't even want to get rid of it. I AM wondering how much the Tone Zone S, Super Distortion S, or maybe the BC-2 would possibly remedy this issue though. I'd very much prefer to stick with another DiMarzio rail pickup since it matches with the others on the guitar. Plus, that Chopper ain't goin' NOWHERE. Haha

I just think I may be looking for something warmer than the FT2, or at least warmer than the one I have right now.

Any suggestions?
 
Re: DiMarzio Fast Track 2: Does mine sound right?

Feel free to tell me (nicely) if I'm doing something wrong to make it sound like that. I wouldn't mind knowing so I can try and fix it. LOL
 
Re: DiMarzio Fast Track 2: Does mine sound right?

Do you have a treble bleed/bypass network across the volume pot?

Did you ever try the pickup assembly with a 250k volume pot?

As an experiment, take the neck/bridge coil splitting switch out of circuit. (As in, disconnect the bridge pickup's black and white conductors from the switch.)

It would be conventional - if inconvenient - to EQ your amplifier to suit each guitar.
 
Re: DiMarzio Fast Track 2: Does mine sound right?

Do you have a treble bleed/bypass network across the volume pot?

Did you ever try the pickup assembly with a 250k volume pot?

As an experiment, take the neck/bridge coil splitting switch out of circuit. (As in, disconnect the bridge pickup's black and white conductors from the switch.)

It would be conventional - if inconvenient - to EQ your amplifier to suit each guitar.

1. No treble bleed yet, however I do plan to put one in soon.

2. I should have tried it with the 250k volume pot, but I didn't.

3. Hopefully I can find time to do that soon, just to see what happens.

4. You're right, I should not be so OCD about changing my amp settings.
 
Re: DiMarzio Fast Track 2: Does mine sound right?

From looking at the EQ curve of the Tone Zone S, it seems like it might be much more suited to what I'm looking for. Just my thoughts.
 
Re: DiMarzio Fast Track 2: Does mine sound right?

Sounds like normal, considering its a midrangy p'up & the 6505 isn't really lacking in midrange by itself, not sure if the speakers are middy as well

The super d-s might work better for rhythm work, BC2 would be darker & may work as well if the ft2 was way too bright, not sure about the tz-s.
 
Re: DiMarzio Fast Track 2: Does mine sound right?

Sounds like normal, considering its a midrangy p'up & the 6505 isn't really lacking in midrange by itself, not sure if the speakers are middy as well

The super d-s might work better for rhythm work, BC2 would be darker & may work as well if the ft2 was way too bright, not sure about the tz-s.

Thanks! Yeah, the 6505+ definitely has strong midrange. My speakers are a WGS Retro 30 (strong mids) and a WGS HM75 (more modern, slightly scooped mids). Forgot to list them earlier. Sorry!
 
Re: DiMarzio Fast Track 2: Does mine sound right?

Basically I feel that my Strat is more than likely a pretty bright guitar, and I'm using a very midrange focused amp with it, so I probably need a darker, bassier pickup to compensate. Which would best fit that description between the Super Distortion S, Tone Zone S, and BC-2? I'm thinking one of the last 2. The Tone Zone has always seemed very appealing to my taste from the way it's described.
 
Re: DiMarzio Fast Track 2: Does mine sound right?

So far, I'm seeing more recommendations for the Tone Zone S in alder guitars on this forum, the DiMarzio site, and elsewhere.
 
Re: DiMarzio Fast Track 2: Does mine sound right?

@Funkfingers: Here's another thought I just had... What if I decided to reroute the bridge pickup to where the tone control is no longer in it's signal path? Wouldn't that remove all load from it, thus making it even brighter? Or would I get more overall tone across the spectrum? I'm just brainstorming. At the moment, I don't have a lot of time to be taking everything apart over and over, so I kinda have to commit to each change that I make for a short while. I wish I had more time for experimentation, but I just don't right now.

(REALLY considering changing over to the Tone Zone S or BC-2.)
 
Re: DiMarzio Fast Track 2: Does mine sound right?

If you remove the tone from the bridge pup it'll be brighter. It will shift the mids some but also add high end
 
Re: DiMarzio Fast Track 2: Does mine sound right?

If you remove the tone from the bridge pup it'll be brighter. It will shift the mids some but also add high end

I definitely don't need more high end, that's for sure. This thing had me turning off the bright switch on my amp, which I never normally do. Lol
 
Re: DiMarzio Fast Track 2: Does mine sound right?

what tuning are you using on the strat?

a lp tuned to C# with a c8 is gonna sound huge and dark compared to almost anything
 
Re: DiMarzio Fast Track 2: Does mine sound right?

what tuning are you using on the strat?

a lp tuned to C# with a c8 is gonna sound huge and dark compared to almost anything

My Strat is in... Standard. I realize that's a big factor too. LOL! My rig is basically tuned around that Les Paul.
 
Re: DiMarzio Fast Track 2: Does mine sound right?

yeah... lol

thicker darker sounding guitar tuned waaay down with loud fat full size humbucker and big strings vs brighter thinner guitar with single coil sized buckers in standard. i found your issue! :D

if you are really that happy with the way your rig sounds with your lp, go get a graphic eq pedal and tune your strats sound with that so you dont need to change the eq on the amp when you switch guitars
 
Re: DiMarzio Fast Track 2: Does mine sound right?

yeah... lol

thicker darker sounding guitar tuned waaay down with loud fat full size humbucker and big strings vs brighter thinner guitar with single coil sized buckers in standard. i found your issue! :D

if you are really that happy with the way your rig sounds with your lp, go get a graphic eq pedal and tune your strats sound with that so you dont need to change the eq on the amp when you switch guitars

Not a bad idea. It's just strange to me because even with my Les Paul, I really don't keep my treble controls past 5 or 6, and my mids are somewhat scooped (between 3 to 5 on the dial), so I would figure even with a Standard tuned guitar, it wouldn't be so stinkin' bright. The single coils I just took out didn't seem as bright as this thing does now.
 
Re: DiMarzio Fast Track 2: Does mine sound right?

is everything too bright or just the ft2? if you swap the 500k volume to 250k it will darken things up a little
 
Re: DiMarzio Fast Track 2: Does mine sound right?

is everything too bright or just the ft2? if you swap the 500k volume to 250k it will darken things up a little

The Chopper and Fast Track 1 sound just fine. That's what is throwing me off.
 
Re: DiMarzio Fast Track 2: Does mine sound right?

its probably just the way the ft2 sounds through your rig. its pretty middy and your amp has some pretty cutting upper mids (not a bad thing).

two tone controls? how are they setup? i might put one on the bridge by itself so you can leave it rolled off some
 
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