BluesJunkie
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So, what do y'all think of DiMarzio's pafs like the PAF, PAF Classics, and Air Classics? How do they compare to other pafs like the SD '59s, Seth Lovers, and Pearly Gates or Gibson 57 Classics?
DiMarzio PAF copies
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Evan Skopp
SDUGF Founder
Re: DiMarzio PAF copies
I know that's supposed to be a joke, but consider this: in addition to owning exposed double-cream humbucker bobbins, DiMarzio owns the trademark "PAF."
I know that's supposed to be a joke, but consider this: in addition to owning exposed double-cream humbucker bobbins, DiMarzio owns the trademark "PAF."
mongrollo
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Re: DiMarzio PAF copies
I have DiMarzio PAF classics and they are very good pickups: clear and smooth. They are airbuckers, this means that they work like if were loaded with an Alnico2 magnet. But they have alnico5.
Edit: I've just corrected a lot of spelling mistakes :smack:
I have DiMarzio PAF classics and they are very good pickups: clear and smooth. They are airbuckers, this means that they work like if were loaded with an Alnico2 magnet. But they have alnico5.
Edit: I've just corrected a lot of spelling mistakes :smack:
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RG 2570
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Re: DiMarzio PAF copies
they suck just becuase they jumped on a opportunity :smack: ????
so you are saying that if it were YOUR pup company YOU would never do something like that huh?
I tell you what when you own your own company lets see what you will and wont do! :dance:
I_M_Ken said:
they suck just becuase they jumped on a opportunity :smack: ????
so you are saying that if it were YOUR pup company YOU would never do something like that huh?
I tell you what when you own your own company lets see what you will and wont do! :dance:
L
Lewguitar
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Re: DiMarzio PAF copies
Gibson made the first humbucker and before the patent was given a number they put a "patent applied for" sticker on the back of the pickup. That's where "PAF" comes from.
As for the diff between Duncan and Dimarzio: I think the Duncan Seth Lover and Antiquity come closer to being an accurate reissue of the original Gibson PAF humbucker. You might like to read this review: http://www.legendarytones.com Click on guitars and then read the pickup reviews. There's also a great review of the Duncan Custom Shop "EVH" pickup. Lew
screamingdaisy said:
Gibson made the first humbucker and before the patent was given a number they put a "patent applied for" sticker on the back of the pickup. That's where "PAF" comes from.
As for the diff between Duncan and Dimarzio: I think the Duncan Seth Lover and Antiquity come closer to being an accurate reissue of the original Gibson PAF humbucker. You might like to read this review: http://www.legendarytones.com Click on guitars and then read the pickup reviews. There's also a great review of the Duncan Custom Shop "EVH" pickup. Lew
RG 2570
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Re: DiMarzio PAF copies
they all have thier own sig tone so you have to find the one you like the best whether it be dimarzio,duncan gibson or ?
me personally think they sound anemic for the style i play
I think it really comes down to the player that is the final judge of what paf is best ya know?Lewguitar said:
they all have thier own sig tone so you have to find the one you like the best whether it be dimarzio,duncan gibson or ?
me personally think they sound anemic for the style i play
Re: DiMarzio PAF copies
The funny thing is everyone talks about this or that brand or this boutique brand has the PAF tone nailed.....it's all BS IMO. THere was no definitive PAF tone....there were inconsistencies amongst all those old "PAF" pickups.
Go by your ears.....what you like
The funny thing is everyone talks about this or that brand or this boutique brand has the PAF tone nailed.....it's all BS IMO. THere was no definitive PAF tone....there were inconsistencies amongst all those old "PAF" pickups.
Go by your ears.....what you like
L
Lewguitar
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Re: DiMarzio PAF copies
I agree...but have you actually owned any REAL 50's Gibson paf's? I have. It's true: they are all slightly differant but there IS a certain quality to the tone that they DO have in commen...and the Duncan's get closer to that tone than any of the Dimarzios. As for personal preference: I'll take the depth, glassy bounce and clarity of a good vintage Strat neck pickup over any neck paf anyday! :burnout: Lew
ranalli said:The funny thing is everyone talks about this or that brand or this boutique brand has the PAF tone nailed.....it's all BS IMO. THere was no definitive PAF tone....there were inconsistencies amongst all those old "PAF" pickups.
Go by your ears.....what you like
I agree...but have you actually owned any REAL 50's Gibson paf's? I have. It's true: they are all slightly differant but there IS a certain quality to the tone that they DO have in commen...and the Duncan's get closer to that tone than any of the Dimarzios. As for personal preference: I'll take the depth, glassy bounce and clarity of a good vintage Strat neck pickup over any neck paf anyday! :burnout: Lew
That90'sGuy
DyzaBoyzologist
Re: DiMarzio PAF copies
While I don't agree that Dimarzio's practices are very (how shall we say this?) "tasteful", I will admit that their Virtual PAFs, for my style of music, are great. It's a humbucker that isn't a humbucker. Has clarity and a bit of chime like a single coil, but with the punch and the warmth of a humbucker.
However, I am in LOVE with my SD Antiquities. They deliver true vintage tone. Others have reviewed them and said that they are one of the closest pups to delivering that tone. That should say a lot. They sound wonderful clean or distorted and they have so much life to them (wish the EMGs I purchased in the past had that).
While I don't agree that Dimarzio's practices are very (how shall we say this?) "tasteful", I will admit that their Virtual PAFs, for my style of music, are great. It's a humbucker that isn't a humbucker. Has clarity and a bit of chime like a single coil, but with the punch and the warmth of a humbucker.
However, I am in LOVE with my SD Antiquities. They deliver true vintage tone. Others have reviewed them and said that they are one of the closest pups to delivering that tone. That should say a lot. They sound wonderful clean or distorted and they have so much life to them (wish the EMGs I purchased in the past had that).
RG 2570
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Re: DiMarzio PAF copies
you and me are a lot alike when it comes to this subject
I dont use them but am intrigued by all the hoolpla about them?
some guys are just plain scary bout these paf's :saeek:
you would think the paf's are magical and make you play better or something the was some talk bout them
to me one just has a different signature than the other with no ONE particular one really being better.
I thought the PAF pro was a real innovative idea for those that wanted a paf type tone but used more for modern apllications.
ranalli said:The funny thing is everyone talks about this or that brand or this boutique brand has the PAF tone nailed.....it's all BS IMO. THere was no definitive PAF tone....there were inconsistencies amongst all those old "PAF" pickups.
Go by your ears.....what you like
you and me are a lot alike when it comes to this subject
I dont use them but am intrigued by all the hoolpla about them?
some guys are just plain scary bout these paf's :saeek:
you would think the paf's are magical and make you play better or something the was some talk bout them
to me one just has a different signature than the other with no ONE particular one really being better.
I thought the PAF pro was a real innovative idea for those that wanted a paf type tone but used more for modern apllications.
That90'sGuy
DyzaBoyzologist
Re: DiMarzio PAF copies
That's what it's all about RG. DiMarzio has a more "modern" vibe while SD has a more "vintage" vibe to it. It's all preferences. I've found both to be useful in their respective places.
That's what it's all about RG. DiMarzio has a more "modern" vibe while SD has a more "vintage" vibe to it. It's all preferences. I've found both to be useful in their respective places.
Evan Skopp
SDUGF Founder
Re: DiMarzio PAF copies
"PAF" means "patent applied for" and refers to the "patent applied for" stickers that were adhered to the underside of Gibson humbuckers made between 1955 and 1960. The patent was written by Seth Lover in 1955 (which is why our Seth Lover model is the SH-55) and was granted in 1960. Those pickups are often seen as the holy grail of vintage Les Paul tone. But it's true, there is a lot of inconsistencies in their manufacture. For example, the winding machines did not have counters back then. They wound by time. That's not very accurate.
I hope that helps.
Sorry, screamingdaisy, I mis-read your comment, thinking it was a joke. My fault.screamingdaisy said:
"PAF" means "patent applied for" and refers to the "patent applied for" stickers that were adhered to the underside of Gibson humbuckers made between 1955 and 1960. The patent was written by Seth Lover in 1955 (which is why our Seth Lover model is the SH-55) and was granted in 1960. Those pickups are often seen as the holy grail of vintage Les Paul tone. But it's true, there is a lot of inconsistencies in their manufacture. For example, the winding machines did not have counters back then. They wound by time. That's not very accurate.
I hope that helps.
RG 2570
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Re: DiMarzio PAF copies
i guess to me the real pup should and is called the seth lover model,he is the one that designed/made it.
I think it is great that duncan honored him by releasing his model
it's kind of odd but you would think THAT would be the best PAF? HIS? no?
Evan Skopp said:
i guess to me the real pup should and is called the seth lover model,he is the one that designed/made it.
I think it is great that duncan honored him by releasing his model
it's kind of odd but you would think THAT would be the best PAF? HIS? no?
BluesJunkie
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Re: DiMarzio PAF copies
My understanding is that because of Gibson's inconsitancies, there were a lot of varieties of PAFs, and Duncan's 59, Pearly Gates, and Seth Lover are all based on different actual PAFs. DiMarzio PAF style pickups, on the other hand, aren't really based on specific pickups and are kind of a melting pot of various PAF qualities they liked.
I've tried a couple of Duncan paf-style pups and liked them, but I was curious about the DiMarzios. No one ever mentions their pafs-style pickups, just the higher output pickups. I was wondering if people thought they sucked, just hadn't ever tried them, or whatever.
My understanding is that because of Gibson's inconsitancies, there were a lot of varieties of PAFs, and Duncan's 59, Pearly Gates, and Seth Lover are all based on different actual PAFs. DiMarzio PAF style pickups, on the other hand, aren't really based on specific pickups and are kind of a melting pot of various PAF qualities they liked.
I've tried a couple of Duncan paf-style pups and liked them, but I was curious about the DiMarzios. No one ever mentions their pafs-style pickups, just the higher output pickups. I was wondering if people thought they sucked, just hadn't ever tried them, or whatever.
mongrollo
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Re: DiMarzio PAF copies
I dissagree. The PAF classic are sell like if they were reproductions of the 50 humbuckers with technological improovements. In fact I think they are the DiMarzio's Seth Lover version to compete in the market.
From DiMarzio's site: "Using our patented Airbucker™ technology, we've created a pickup that sounds like the best humbuckers of the 50s' without any compromise in sound (reffering to the nickel cover)"
What I don't know if this statement it is true and they really sound like real PAF's. What I know it is they sound very good.
RG 2570 said:blues, that is correct dimarzio does not even use a alnico II in any of thier pups
thier paf's are charactures of the real deal as to thier own admission
I dissagree. The PAF classic are sell like if they were reproductions of the 50 humbuckers with technological improovements. In fact I think they are the DiMarzio's Seth Lover version to compete in the market.
From DiMarzio's site: "Using our patented Airbucker™ technology, we've created a pickup that sounds like the best humbuckers of the 50s' without any compromise in sound (reffering to the nickel cover)"
What I don't know if this statement it is true and they really sound like real PAF's. What I know it is they sound very good.