DiMarzios Air technology -revolutionary or not?
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Funkfingers
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Re: DiMarzios Air technology -revolutionary or not?
Er, somebody would need to devise an adequate practical demonstration to prove the point one way or the other.
People patent all sorts of things - including stuff other people did first.
Er, somebody would need to devise an adequate practical demonstration to prove the point one way or the other.
People patent all sorts of things - including stuff other people did first.
Re: DiMarzios Air technology -revolutionary or not?
I dunno if it's revolutionary...but I do know that I like most of the Airbucker offerings I've played. While that does not prove that it's the Airbucker technology that makes them good, I guess I don't really care.
Each model should be treated separately even if they use the same technology. Winds and magnets are different, and form different foundations for the pickup. The airbucking is more like a top note on a fragrance or tobacco from what I understand.
Sure I guess there's some similar "thing" on say, an Air Norton and an Air Zone, but they're still different pickups. That's what I'm trying to say.
I dunno if it's revolutionary...but I do know that I like most of the Airbucker offerings I've played. While that does not prove that it's the Airbucker technology that makes them good, I guess I don't really care.
Each model should be treated separately even if they use the same technology. Winds and magnets are different, and form different foundations for the pickup. The airbucking is more like a top note on a fragrance or tobacco from what I understand.
Sure I guess there's some similar "thing" on say, an Air Norton and an Air Zone, but they're still different pickups. That's what I'm trying to say.
Marshall_Abuser
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Re: DiMarzios Air technology -revolutionary or not?
I have never liked the "Air patent" pickups because they sound weak to me
Also, the "Dual resonance patent" ones seem to sound a bit weird, especially when picking hard, and they tend to color the guitar's tone too much to my liking (Evo, Tone-Zone, D-Sonic, etc.).
Still, Dimarzio makes awesome "no-patent" pickups like the PAF-Pro, X2N, Breed...
I have never liked the "Air patent" pickups because they sound weak to me
Also, the "Dual resonance patent" ones seem to sound a bit weird, especially when picking hard, and they tend to color the guitar's tone too much to my liking (Evo, Tone-Zone, D-Sonic, etc.).
Still, Dimarzio makes awesome "no-patent" pickups like the PAF-Pro, X2N, Breed...
C-Martin
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Re: DiMarzios Air technology -revolutionary or not?
but the question is.. in 30 years from now when the magnet does age.. how will it sound? even weaker? will it loose definition? are people gonna mod their air buckers to remove the "air technology" and make em regular buckers? :scratchch
but the question is.. in 30 years from now when the magnet does age.. how will it sound? even weaker? will it loose definition? are people gonna mod their air buckers to remove the "air technology" and make em regular buckers? :scratchch
idsnowdog
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Re: DiMarzios Air technology -revolutionary or not?
You could ask the same question of manufacturers who "age" their magnets. What will an antiquity sound like 50 years from now? That being said I don't buy into the idea that magnets naturally age and break down. The elements that make a magnet are stable, so there shouldn't be any degradation. However if you expose the magnets to strong electromagnetic fields they will degaus.
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dominus
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Re: DiMarzios Air technology -revolutionary or not?
My Air Norton and Air Zone sound just as strong as an EVO2 in the same guitar. Not sure how you found them weak.
My Air Norton and Air Zone sound just as strong as an EVO2 in the same guitar. Not sure how you found them weak.
Mark Le Comte
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Re: DiMarzios Air technology -revolutionary or not?
I have never quite understood why airbuckers should sound any different to just lowering the pickup a little.
I have never quite understood why airbuckers should sound any different to just lowering the pickup a little.
Marshall_Abuser
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Re: DiMarzios Air technology -revolutionary or not?
I guess it's because you move ONLY the magnet further apart from the strings, rather than the coils as well. So the coils keep picking up the strings while the magnet exerts less string pull, which also results in less output hence my impression of them feeling rather weak.
I guess it's because you move ONLY the magnet further apart from the strings, rather than the coils as well. So the coils keep picking up the strings while the magnet exerts less string pull, which also results in less output hence my impression of them feeling rather weak.
ACH91332
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Re: DiMarzios Air technology -revolutionary or not?
It's nothing crazy but its just something that gives off a more vintage vibe. The magnet doesn't directly contact the poles magnetically. They use spacers that do not conduct magnetically that way like I said the magnet doesn't contact the poles magnetically. So by doing that there is a weaker string pull on these pickups which can offer more sustain but mostly it makes the pickup more mellow on top and spongier on the bottom.
It's just a way to simulate aged magnets. Aging magnets is pretty hit or miss I guess. It can work or it may make the magnet unstable and unpredictable (from what it sounds like from DMZ) and the airbucker tech is just a way around that using full strength magnets while still getting the desired results.
It's nothing crazy but its just something that gives off a more vintage vibe. The magnet doesn't directly contact the poles magnetically. They use spacers that do not conduct magnetically that way like I said the magnet doesn't contact the poles magnetically. So by doing that there is a weaker string pull on these pickups which can offer more sustain but mostly it makes the pickup more mellow on top and spongier on the bottom.
It's just a way to simulate aged magnets. Aging magnets is pretty hit or miss I guess. It can work or it may make the magnet unstable and unpredictable (from what it sounds like from DMZ) and the airbucker tech is just a way around that using full strength magnets while still getting the desired results.