Do they make metal-oriented Filtertron replacements?

Rex_Rocker

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I got offered a Cabronita Tele for my Epi LP. It looks cool, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like those Filtertrons, LOL.

Do they sell like off-the-shelf Black Winters in Filtertron housing or something? LOL. Maybe not that extreme, but along those lines. Or would I be stuck with low output super bright pickups?

I'm sure the CS could make it happen, but I don't want to have to spend CS money on a guitar I might not like just to see if I would actually like it.

Thanks!
 
The most "metal" Filtrons I know of are the TV Jones Classic Plus. They are around 8K. I remember seeing a video online of a guy playing Eruption with one. I would say the pickup will get you to Malcolm Young territory, but no, it is not a Black Winter. I have a TV Jones Classic Plus bridge in the neck of my Tele with a Hot Rails in the bridge. The guitar is a screamer.
 
Duncan and tv jones make hot filtertrons.
but hot means PAF level output and tone.

there should be cheap ones with a ceramic out there.

i love filtertrons!
with their HIFi quality they can sound quite evil with the right amp. They are quite gritty and clear, but get muddy and boomy pretty quickly if set too close.
It‘s a mix between single coil and PAF sound. Best of both worlds.
i use them more for the brain setzer thing, but they are very versatile.
if set up right the supertron with high gain is a thing of beauty, the clarity from the neck puts every PAF to shame.
if you start to like them you will not touch your black winter again! Be warned!
 
Securb said:
The most "metal" Filtrons I know of are the TV Jones Classic Plus. They are around 8K. I remember seeing a video online of a guy playing Eruption with one. I would say the pickup will get you to Malcolm Young territory, but no, it is not a Black Winter. I have a TV Jones Classic Plus bridge in the neck of my Tele with a Hot Rails in the bridge. The guitar is a screamer.
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Powertron should be hotter.
you can get way heavier than Malcolm. That‘s practically a clean amp, depending on the album.
 
Seashore said:
The Creamery will do them.
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My understanding is it's hard to replicate the 70s versions because CuNiFe isn't used much anymore due to different manufacturing processes.

That said if I used an original spec in a HB size wound for metal I'm not sure it'd even be a Wide Range anymore. Just a humbucker with P-Bass style polepieces.
 
Yeah, told him I'd have to pass.

If it were P90's, I love P90's. And they make P90-sized Super Distortions.

But Duncan '59B is as low output/bright as I go, personally. But even then, I like to keep my guitars all within the same realm output wise depending on what I'm using at the time. And right now, it's 500T's, LOL.

Gonna have to keep on looking.
 
Inflames626 said:
I kind of wish one could get a Fender Wide Range in a regular sized HB for metal. They look cool.
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Just put a 3x3 cover on an Allan Holdsworth Metal Fatigue.

https://customshop.seymourduncan.com/ah-metal-fatigue/

https://www.philadelphialuthiertool.../humbucker/49mm-3-x-3-humbucker-pickup-cover/

oh, sorry, you want vintage CuNiFe tone in normal humbucker? Porter makes something, check the clips for tone

https://www.porterpickups.com/products/pickups/humbucker-pickups/wrh/
 
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I thought the Metal Fatigue was more of a fusion humbucker--perhaps not voiced quite tightly enough for metal? I thought it would sound along the lines of a JB meets Custom.
 
Inflames626 said:
I thought the Metal Fatigue was more of a fusion humbucker--perhaps not voiced quite tightly enough for metal? I thought it would sound along the lines of a JB meets Custom.
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Could swap a Ceramic mag in there, then? Since it's a Custom Shop pickup, you can ask for what you want, same price.
 
Isn't the Metal Fatigue just a JB with some different polepieces?

Maybe you don't like it for yourself, but plenty of Metal bands use the JB and get great tones.
 
Rex_Rocker said:
Isn't the Metal Fatigue just a JB with some different polepieces?

Maybe you don't like it for yourself, but plenty of Metal bands use the JB and get great tones.
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In the bridge, I usually have to shelve it aggressively on the lows to get it tight. It's a great rock pickup for mid tempo music, but not ideal for metal, IMO. Dated sound. I like it better in the neck.
 
Inflames626 said:
It's certainly one of the coolest looking SD pickups.

I didn't remember seeing these in Holdsworth signature Carvins so the look surprises me a bit.
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I think it's predecessor was a dual-screw 59n in the bridge, so there's that. That's kind of what I meant by you can ask for what you want if you go Custom Shop. You can tell them to change the coils, change the magnets, or better, just tell them the sound and they'll apply 40 years of internally-documented recipes to get that sound to give you what you want.
 
beaubrummels said:
I think it's predecessor was a dual-screw 59n in the bridge, so there's that. That's kind of what I meant by you can ask for what you want if you go Custom Shop. You can tell them to change the coils, change the magnets, or better, just tell them the sound and they'll apply 40 years of internally-documented recipes to get that sound to give you what you want.
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Until I played the PATB Original, it probably would have been some combination of the Demon and the Full Shred.

I feel like with so many SD models out now there's probably an existing model that will get me 99% there.
 
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