Do you know the notes on the fretboard?

Re: Do you know the notes on the fretboard?

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That's kind of my response. I understand what he is saying. I understand, and encourage the study of theory.

My point is simply that I am NOT thinking note names while I play. It has never entered my mind while playing that "an F would sound good here."
 
Re: Do you know the notes on the fretboard?

i think you guys might be missing his point ... he doesnt 'start' with the thought 'an F would sound good here' ... he starts with feeling that he wants to create the sound of an 11th against the Cmin7 ... and his knowledge [ a) that the 11th is F and b) where to find F in the position he finds himself] gives him the power to create what he wants to hear

t4d
 
Re: Do you know the notes on the fretboard?

i think you guys might be missing his point ... he doesnt 'start' with the thought 'an F would sound good here' ... he starts with feeling that he wants to create the sound of an 11th against the Cmin7 ... and his knowledge [ a) that the 11th is F and b) where to find F in the position he finds himself] gives him the power to create what he wants to hear

t4d

Very good discussion so far. Very good points presented !

T4D is right. You get a list of notes that sound tasty in your mind. For example: I like playing over minor chords in slow ballads. Some of my favorite intervals against minor chords are: 9s, 11s, 13s, min 7s. So if you know the notes on the fretboard, you can find the notes quicker. You must already KNOW what they sound like before you play them though.

Another great not for me is the 5th. Eric Johnson uses a lot of the 5th. You can use the 5th against any chord because its neutral in nature, BUT at the same time not as obvious as the root. My top pick for resolving phrases with chord tone targeting.

Memorization of the fretboard is something i'm trying to do as well. I'm combining the octaves approach with the C major scale approach. And also trying to memorize it in chunks of the neck. But still a work in progress.

One of my favorite things to do over a set of changes is to stick to a basic pentatonic scale. Then you pick a tasty note like a 3rd , 5th or 7th and play it on a chord change (going outside the pentatonic scale sometimes). What that does, is it SAVES that note and gives it extra emphasis. This works good, because pentatonic scales have 4 strong notes and 1 week one, whilst diatonic scales have 2 more week notes. So you can be safe and play pentatonics, going out of them only at certain times.
 
Re: Do you know the notes on the fretboard?

Very good discussion so far. Very good points presented !

T4D is right. You get a list of notes that sound tasty in your mind. For example: I like playing over minor chords in slow ballads. Some of my favorite intervals against minor chords are: 9s, 11s, 13s, min 7s. So if you know the notes on the fretboard, you can find the notes quicker. You must already KNOW what they sound like before you play them though.

Another great not for me is the 5th. Eric Johnson uses a lot of the 5th. You can use the 5th against any chord because its neutral in nature, BUT at the same time not as obvious as the root. My top pick for resolving phrases with chord tone targeting.

Memorization of the fretboard is something i'm trying to do as well. I'm combining the octaves approach with the C major scale approach. And also trying to memorize it in chunks of the neck. But still a work in progress.

One of my favorite things to do over a set of changes is to stick to a basic pentatonic scale. Then you pick a tasty note like a 3rd , 5th or 7th and play it on a chord change (going outside the pentatonic scale sometimes). What that does, is it SAVES that note and gives it extra emphasis. This works good, because pentatonic scales have 4 strong notes and 1 week one, whilst diatonic scales have 2 more week notes. So you can be safe and play pentatonics, going out of them only at certain times.

:yell:
 
Re: Do you know the notes on the fretboard?

I don't :(:(:(:(
I wish i could know any notes I play...
Mostly I'm playing notes chaotically and spontaniously - not in a bad way.. but most of my plaing is very similar I think I stick with some schematics that are ahem..."implanted" in my mind.
I'm learning wich notes i play , and sometimes i can tell which notes is played when i have look on a fretboad for a second.
 
Re: Do you know the notes on the fretboard?

I do know them all, but it's not much use really. I have no interest in reading notation, learning note for note other peoples' tunes, and when you think about it, each of the 12 notes has 12 different functions: for example ...

a 'C' note can be the:

1 of a C chord
b9 of a B chord
9 of a Bb chord
b3 of an Am chord
3 of a G# chord
4 of a G chord
#4 of a F# chord
5 of a F chord
#5 of an E chord
6 of a D# chord
b7 of a D chord
7 of a C# chord ...

So I find it very useful to think in numbers, not note names. I'm always acutely aware of the number I'm playing (in terms of 'the chord of the moment'). Its name is of little interest to me.
 
Re: Do you know the notes on the fretboard?

I figure it out with math, based on my knowledge of the notes on the E string.

I just add em up, subtract 12's and spit out the name of the note

A string 9th fret = 5+9=14, 14-12=2, 2=F#

G string 14th fret = 3+14=17, 17-12=5, 5=A

* I do this in the blink of an eye - anybody else do it this way?
 
Re: Do you know the notes on the fretboard?

This is something i'm currently working on.

I learned the notes on the neck already - i just need to review over and over again, until it solidifies in my brain.

Currently i'm working on sight reading from those jazz method books that I own.
 
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