Does this seem like a good deal to anyone else?

Re: Does this seem like a good deal to anyone else?

Personally I do not think it is a great deal. It's ok. Just because somebody replaced the pickups does not mean you should cover that cost when buying a used guitar. The case is about $100, so that's a nice inclusion. Personally, if I were to go play the guitar and like how it plays and feels I would probably offer around $325 with hopes of meeting somewhere in the middle.

My main factors are:
1. I do not know if I will like the pickups. Regardless of how much they cost I may want to put something else in there.
2. Cosmetic damage. The guitar is no longer close to being mint. It's a reason to knock some money off the asking price even though all guitars that get played eventually show their age.
 
Re: Does this seem like a good deal to anyone else?

Personally I do not think it is a great deal. It's ok. Just because somebody replaced the pickups does not mean you should cover that cost when buying a used guitar. The case is about $100, so that's a nice inclusion. Personally, if I were to go play the guitar and like how it plays and feels I would probably offer around $325 with hopes of meeting somewhere in the middle.

My main factors are:
1. I do not know if I will like the pickups. Regardless of how much they cost I may want to put something else in there.
2. Cosmetic damage. The guitar is no longer close to being mint. It's a reason to knock some money off the asking price even though all guitars that get played eventually show their age.

Alright, thanks!
 
Re: Does this seem like a good deal to anyone else?

I agree with snake, I'd offer a little over 300 especially if you don't know if you like the pickups or not. No use for you to pay for the extra cost of the pickups that he wanted in the first place
 
Re: Does this seem like a good deal to anyone else?

Screw you guys, I think it's fair. It's got $100 worth of pickups (depreciation considered), $100 worth of case, and that puts it at $250 for a MIM Strat with a finish chip.

It's a fair deal.
 
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Screw you guys, I think it's fair. It's got $100 worth of pickups (depreciation considered), $100 worth of case, and that puts it at $250 for a MIM Strat with a finish chip.

It's a fair deal.

Hey, I said it was an ok deal but in no world I live would this guitar be considered a good deal.
 
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Hey, I said it was an ok deal but in no world I live would this guitar be considered a good deal.

That's fair.

I apologize - I sell gear a lot, and I'm always annoyed that everyone seems to want every purchase to be the deal of the century.

The middle of the bell curve is deals that are just fair deals - not crazy deals.
 
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That's fair.

I apologize - I sell gear a lot, and I'm always annoyed that everyone seems to want every purchase to be the deal of the century.

The middle of the bell curve is deals that are just fair deals - not crazy deals.

Agreed, I've been on both ends of the spectrum too so I understand.
 
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I think $400 would be a bit more fair due to the damage. 450 isn't terrible, but you can get them in better condition for around that price.
 
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I don't think it's a good price at all.

The guitar is worth $350 used in great shape ($499 retail, $449 on sale brand new, with warranty, case candy, new strings, etc.). But with that ding in it, and he admitting that he dropped it while playing (may also have some neck problems, etc.), it's only worth $250.

You can't really factor in the price of the replacement pups because like was said already, they may not be what you want and you may have to replace them anyway. I'd give them some value, but $50 max.

The case may not be worth $100, even brand new! I've got many tweed cases for my guitars that are off brand names that regularly sell for less than $70 and routinely go on sale for $49 (that's what I've paid for all of them that I have). They are really good cases, but used are only worth $30-40.

That guitar is worth $350 max.

I'd offer $250 and probably settle for $300 if there is no neck damage (crack/split). If he brings up the cost of the pups, tell him to take them out and offer $200 for the guitar and case without pups.
 
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Re: Does this seem like a good deal to anyone else?

https://bham.craigslist.org/msg/4901133727.html

I'm not good with knowing what guitar is what but is this a MIM Strat with all those new pups? Just the pups add up to 240$ and the case is like 100$? That's like paying 160$ for a used MIM strat? Or am I doing something wrong here?

Well, for sure you are doing your math wrong. Maybe you were asleep in class when they were teaching addition.
 
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I have never paid over $250 for a used MIM. That is a nice case. All tweed cases are not the same, that case would be $125-150, if anyone can find them for $49 let me know I will buy 4.
 
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If those pickups are the ones you wanted, or if you like the way they sound (i am a big fan of the area series), and the case is solid, that is a fair deal.
 
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One thing I like to consider is whether or not the damage is repairable, and if so, how close to perfect could I get it, and I think the major blow in this case is the metallic flake paint, which from what I understand is often a custom mixture and impossible to match exactly, because one batch of paint will vary from the next, and the more complex the color, the more room there is for variation. This is why when they paint match on a car, they will do the whole the fender, because your eyes would notice the variation if they only painted half. Plus some of these colors are actually two layers of paint, where the resulting color is one solid color showing through a translucent color. Without knowing how the paint and finish were applied, it could be difficult to match, even if you had the exact same paint on hand. If this were my guitar, I'd fix that chip anyway, but since it's beyond "like new" repairable, I'd pay even less for it than I might otherwise.

Regarding the pickups, the deal is that they are worth something to some people, but the buyer has to be prepared to wait longer for an interested buyer to come along. In practice, he will price it high at first hoping Mr. I-love-noiseless-pickups is cruising craigs list, and if it doesn't sell within a week, he'll drop the price by $100, or a lot sooner if he's fueling a drug addiction. As the buyer, you have to feel out with your own intuition how likely he is to sell the guitar at that price, how desperate is he to sell, and decide if you should go for it, or lowball him.
 
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Ask him if he can take out and keep his pickups, while knocking their cost off the guitar (so around $100). That way you're paying $250 for a used MIM strat, and $100 for a case, then just put whatever pickups you want in it. If you want to convince him, mention to him that it'd be easier to sell the pickups and guitar separately, and he could possibly even make more money that way (which is true). If he sells the pickups for $60 each, he'll come out with $80 extra - $530 total instead of $450. It's a win-win.

If you ever sell a modified guitar, return the guitar to as close to stock as possible and sell the parts for modification separately. Because not only will modifications almost always devalue a guitar, it becomes a lot harder to sell, even if it's an upgrade. Never think that you'll increase the value with modifications.
 
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The paint is very easy to match up. Fender paint colors are based on auto paint codes. They DO NOT do custom mixes on production guitars. If there is fading you might run into issues, I cant see you dealing with that with a 6 year old guitar that looks as if it was kept in a case. You can find touch up bottles of all of these paints online for short money. A touch up, light sand and buff, and that chip will be fine.

Here are some paint codes.

http://www.strat-talk.com/forum/att...8728-color-charts-year-color_codes_fender.pdf
 
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Re: Does this seem like a good deal to anyone else?

It's not a good deal, any way it's sliced.

First off, a used Mexican Strat simply does not go for $450, regardless of what's been done to it. That's just the way the used market works. In your calculations, you are assigning retail prices to used items. That doesn't establish real-world value. You are also piece-mealing the whole thing, and that also doesn't establish real-world value.

Also, there's no way that case is worth $100 used. $80 to $100 is what those cheap-o Gator-type cases cost new (and the better quality G&G Fender ones are only $120). Cases lose at least 50% of their monetary value the minute you walk out the door with a new one. In addition, they lose even more value when included as part of a package deal. So that's $20 to $25 worth of case there as part of that package. Personally, when considering buying used equipment, I consider low-end cases like that "throw ins," with no monetary value whatsoever.

Add up the used value of everything there, you are probably getting almost (not quite) a square deal on paper (guitar: $250 at most, pickups: $150 at most, case: $50 at most = $450 at most). But that doesn't account for the fact that whole bundles almost always bring less than the sum of their parts. In other words, even though it almost adds up on paper, it's not a "good deal" in terms of actual street value. You can either get something similarly good for less money, or get something better for $450.

If you can get it for $300 without the mediocre case, or $350 with it, and those pickups are exactly what you would have decided to have put in it anyhow, then I'd say it's a good deal. If all the criteria in that sentence don't apply, just pass; it's not worth it. You'd do better off getting a mint or near-mint stock one with a nice quality case for $250 or $300, then putting in used pickups of your choice for $40 to $50 a piece, and not being restricted to what someone else decided they wanted in the guitar.
 
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