Double Cream Dimarzio

[gilaltom3]

Do you guys know of any Dimarzio pickups that come in double cream that are similar to burst buckers sound -wise? I would just get the burst buckers but I'm pretty sure dimarzios are the only company that sells double cream. Not that I'm a pickup aficionado or anything, just what I've heard :cool2:

 

[jimlp]

Re: Double Cream Dimarzio

Do you guys know of any Dimarzio pickups that come in double cream that are similar to burst buckers sound -wise? I would just get the burst buckers but I'm pretty sure dimarzios are the only company that sells double cream. Not that I'm a pickup aficionado or anything, just what I've heard :cool2:

36th Anniversary for A5 Air Classics for A2

 

[gilaltom3]

Re: Double Cream Dimarzio

In English, please. Lol

 

[Scifi Metalhead]

Re: Double Cream Dimarzio

I just installed a set of DiMarzio 36ths and love them.

That's as plain as my English gets. :cool2:

 

[jimlp]

Re: Double Cream Dimarzio

In English, please. Lol

36th Anniversary for a Duncan 59 or Burst Bucker pro type of sound (A5 magnets, good bass and highs with slightly scooped mids) and the Air Classic for Burst Bucker 1 or 2 and 57 Classic type of tones (A2 magnets, softer low end good mids and rolled back highs)

 

[TattooedCarrot]

Re: Double Cream Dimarzio

The Air Classic is also Alnico 5, Dimarzio doesn't use A2 magnets.

Both the 36th and the Air Classic models are great pickups in the ballpark of what you're looking for. The 36th set tends to have a slight mid hump and the Air Classics have a slight mid scoop.

I prefer a 36th in the bridge because its a tad hotter and fills out a bit fuller with more mids. I prefer to match it with an Air Classic because the slight mid scoop makes it a bit brighter, and a bit snappier in comparison.

I currently have a 36th bridge and Air Classic neck in my TeleGib.

 

[DonP]

Re: Double Cream Dimarzio

This is good news if it's true. I picked up a 36th set in cream as well as a PAF / Super D set in cream. I haven't installed them yet, but if they sound as good as my BB's, that's good news.

No, they aren't replacing the BB's. They will need to go into some other axe.

 

[Aceman]

Re: Double Cream Dimarzio

Ummm - as with Duncan, ANY pickup can be obtained in double cream.

 

[BloodRose]

Re: Double Cream Dimarzio

Is the 36th hotter than the normal PAF?? I had a PAF in the bridge once and it wasnt enough for me..

 

[jimlp]

Re: Double Cream Dimarzio

The Air Classic is also Alnico 5, Dimarzio doesn't use A2 magnets.

Both the 36th and the Air Classic models are great pickups in the ballpark of what you're looking for. The 36th set tends to have a slight mid hump and the Air Classics have a slight mid scoop as well ..

I prefer a 36th in the bridge because its a tad hotter and fills out a bit fuller with more mids. I prefer to match it with an Air Classic because the slight mid scoop makes it a bit brighter, and a bit snappier in comparison.

I currently have a 36th bridge and Air Classic neck in my TeleGib.

The "air technology" is supposed to replicate A2 magnets, I thought that was the whole the reason it was developed in the first place. I play my friends guitar with 36's in it and it sounds like a Duncan 59, slight scoop in the mids as well as being overwound.. I had had Air Classics in 2 guitars and in my experience they had noticeably more mids than the 36's. That is my experience only, guitars all sound different.

 

[jimlp]

Re: Double Cream Dimarzio

Ummm - as with Duncan, ANY pickup can be obtained in double cream.

With Duncan it would be a "Floor Shop Custom" pickup in the $110.00 range, with Dimarzio it is Standard pricing.

 

[dvadneau]

Re: Double Cream Dimarzio

Yes. Check out the Dimarzio forum FAQ about output comparisons:
http://www.dimarzioforum.com/pickup_compare/compare.php
(I think the forum is being modified atm, so the site is having trouble with that link)

They've got all of the pickups, even discontinued ones. They even have the original PAF vs the 36th bridge and neck.

The original DP103 PAF (now 36th neck) was rated at 203mV, where the 36th bridge is 285, and the new neck is 250.

The 36th bridge is 8.6K where the neck is 7.3K.

I've got 2 original Dmz PAFs, one from the 80's and one from the 70's. They are 7.6K and 8.3K respectively, and the 8.3K is noticeably hotter. The voicing has changed a little on the 36ths, apparently, so that will also affect how hot the pickup sounds.

@Aceman - are you referring to a custom shop pickup from SD? I didn't think you could even get a floor shop custom in double-cream. Cool if you could though.

... You could always combine zebra/reverse zebra I guess and sell off the all black one ...

@TattooedCarrot - good Lord that is gorgeous. If that sounds as good as it looks, I would literally give my left nut for it. Not that I expect anyone to actually take me up on that ... I've got 2 kids, so what the hell?

 

[gilaltom3]

Re: Double Cream Dimarzio

Cool, thanks for all the advice guys.

 

[TattooedCarrot]

Re: Double Cream Dimarzio

The "air technology" is supposed to replicate A2 magnets,

Actually I believe the airbucker technology is to replicate and aged magnet rather than degaussing one. Real PAF's used both A2 and A5, in fact more were probably A5.

Is the 36th hotter than the normal PAF?? I had a PAF in the bridge once and it wasnt enough for me..

The 36th bridge is hotter, it replaced the older Virtual Hot PAF, and the 36th neck replaced the Virtual PAF, with some tweaking of course.

 

[TattooedCarrot]

Re: Double Cream Dimarzio

From Dimarzio''s website.

What are Airbuckers?

Airbuckers are full-sized humbuckers that contain a gap or space between the magnet and the polepieces. The distance is quite small, and may be filled with nothing but air or by some non-magnetic material. The purpose of the gap is to lessen the magnetic field over the pickup, which in turn lets the string vibrate more freely. This results in a purer, more open sound and improved sustain.

The other purpose of the air design is to reliably reproduce the performance of vintage humbuckers (1950s and 60s), many of which contain magnets weakened by age and mishandling. Weakened or "aged" magnets are inherently unstable, and therefore cause unpredictable performance. Airbuckers utilize stable, full-strength magnets, yet the magnetic field is the same as produced by an "aged" magnet, thus offering the performance advantage without the unpredictability.