DPDT switch will not be near a pot,... where to solder the "bare" wire to?

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gregggyf

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Good Evening,

I would like to ask a question regarding the diagram below.

This diagram pertains to wiring a pickup to a DPDT switch and soldering the bare wire to the back of a pot.

For my mod, the DPDT will not be near the pot. The DPDT will be attached to the pickguard of a Les Paul (Jimmy Page #2 mod) so I will have the pickup cable going through the bridge pickup ring, under the pickguard and to the DPDT. My question is, at this point, how to I get the bare wire back to a place that can be considered an earth ground? (if that is the proper term)

Do I have to reverse the bare wire back through the bridge pickup ring to be soldered to a pot?

Thank you very much for your time and patience.

Greg

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=2h_2v_2t_3w_phase
 
Re: DPDT switch will not be near a pot,... where to solder the "bare" wire to?

Re: DPDT switch will not be near a pot,... where to solder the "bare" wire to?

I assume there will be an output from the switch going to a pot or selector. The bare can be soldered to a bit of wire that does go to a pot.
 
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Re: DPDT switch will not be near a pot,... where to solder the "bare" wire to?

Yeah, you've got to have a hot wire going from the switch back into the body to connect with the vol pot anyway, so just have a ground wire go with it. Yes, it should be soldered to the back of a pot.

You are going to have enough room under the LP scratchplate to fit a DPDT switch?!
 
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Re: DPDT switch will not be near a pot,... where to solder the "bare" wire to?

I've been thinking about doing the same thing, but I'm still waiting on parts. Is there enough room under the pickguard for a standard mini switch? I know the JP #2 uses really tiny push button switches, but I have not been able to find replicas to purchase.
 
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Re: DPDT switch will not be near a pot,... where to solder the "bare" wire to?

Hello AlexR and GuitarDoc, I think that I thought of a way to "conveniently" solder the bare to the pot while my DPDT switch is mounted underneath a pick guard.
I will simply strip the outer jacket of the pickup cable and segregate the bare wire out from the other four wires then I will heat-shrink-tube the other four wires and them towards the pick guard. This will leave me with the bare wire located inside the guitar body.
 
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gregggyf said:
Hello AlexR and GuitarDoc, I think that I thought of a way to "conveniently" solder the bare to the pot while my DPDT switch is mounted underneath a pick guard.
I will simply strip the outer jacket of the pickup cable and segregate the bare wire out from the other four wires then I will heat-shrink-tube the other four wires and them towards the pick guard.
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I would suggest that you add an extension onto the bare. This way you would not have to cut up the pickup leads in case you ever decide that you want to swap out your pickups later. You can keep more of the pickup's resale value this way.

You may also try what Jimmy Page did and wire the pickups to a wire terminal inside the control cavity and then run a some 4 conductor wire up to the pickguard.





 
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ericmeyer4 said:
I've been thinking about doing the same thing, but I'm still waiting on parts. Is there enough room under the pickguard for a standard mini switch? I know the JP #2 uses really tiny push button switches, but I have not been able to find replicas to purchase.
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Hello Eric, The DPDT's that I will be using are NKK EB2085-RO. These switches are DPDT, ON-ON, Solder Lug, Pushbutton switches.
These switches can be purchased through a company called Mouser.

These switches will not fit under the pick guard without some modification to the pick guard/guitar,
namely...
TO THE GUITAR - I drilled a hole above the existing hole to get more pick guard height clearance.
TO THE PICK GUARD BRACKET - I bent it some what to allow for more clearance.

To see some of the topics that I have gone through with this topic I invite to go to MYLESPAUL.COM and search under my name over there, which is gregggyf.

I am happy to say that there is a vendor on MYLESPAUL.COM, that when I have last seen, will construct a pushbutton loaded pick guard. I am not sure if I am allowed to disclose his username here, if possible send me note, if that is allowable if not let me know and I will see how I can contact you.

Have a good day and good luck.
 
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Re: DPDT switch will not be near a pot,... where to solder the "bare" wire to?

Yes Eric, I have seen those pictures before.
To be honest, the switches that I am/will be using, are sturdier looking. : )
 
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Would the same effect be achieved with push/push pots?
 
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DrNewcenstein said:
Would the same effect be achieved with push/push pots?
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Pushbuttons I'm thinking are push/push because there is no pulling motion.
 
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Re: DPDT switch will not be near a pot,... where to solder the "bare" wire to?

You can get push/push pots. You push, and you push again. There is no pulling.
 
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DrNewcenstein said:
You can get push/push pots. You push, and you push again. There is no pulling.
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I think the question DrNewcenstein was asking is why did you choose to go with pickguard mounted switches over the more common pot activated (push/pull or push/push) switches?
 
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ericmeyer4 said:
I think the question DrNewcenstein was asking is why did you choose to go with pickguard mounted switches over the more common pot activated (push/pull or push/push) switches?
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The reason why I wanted the pick guard mounted switches is because I originally had push pull pots and "for some reason" I was too satisfied with them and I sort of liked the idea of pushbuttons underneath the pick guard.

I believe I read/hear recently that CTS now/will soon make either push-pull or push-push.
 
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Re: DPDT switch will not be near a pot,... where to solder the "bare" wire to?

Sweet. I'd love to find push/puxx pots that were more reliable than what I've been finding.
 
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