Dual Impedance Switch For 2 x 8 Ohm Speaker Cabinet (How To Do It)

crusty philtrum

Vintageologist
Laughing Kookaburra asked me how to wire a dual-impedance switch for a cabinet with 2 x 8 Ohm speakers, to give a total load of either 4 Ohms or 16 Ohms. (This would not usually be relevant for 2 x 4 Ohms or 2 x 16 Ohms as there would be a redundant impedance for both of those, i.e. 2 Ohms for the first example and 32 Ohms for the second).

I quickly found a diagram online but some people would have trouble relating the switch in the diagram to the actual switch they were holding in their hand, so i have drawn a 'real world' illustration to go with it.

The switch would be a common heavy-duty 2P2T toggle switch ('Double pole, double throw') type, easily found and not expensive. Please note that most switches of this sort switch in the opposite direction to the terminals on the back .... in my hand-drawn pic below, i have shown the terminals on the back of the switch. The switch lever (toggle type, NOT slider) moves up and down on the other side. So where i have the 4 Ohm position marked, the switch lever would be in the 'UP' poisition, and 'DOWN' to get 16 Ohms.

You can easily check this out with a cheap multimeter before you wire it up, and if you have a low range resistance capability on your meter, you can check it again once you've wired it up.

I have shown only one jack socket, but you can parallel another one (or more) from the one shown, as in the first diagram.

I hope this might be of some help to some of you and give you some options when working out speaker impedance configurations.

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You will notice there are 2 wires that need to join either at the + terminal of one speaker and the - terminal of the other, OR those junctions could be made at the jack terminals. I'd recommend the latter to avoid the difficulty of trying to attach 2 wires to the speaker terminals.
 
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Re: Dual Impedance Switch For 2 x 8 Ohm Speaker Cabinet (How To Do It)

I recently picked up a 1966 Fender Bandmaster head, and I wanted to use a 4 ohm cab with the amp for best results. I was looking at a 4 ohm 2x10 Vintage style cab from Avatar. I also thought that it would be cool to somehow be able to use this cab in conjunction with my Trinity 18 head and Avatar 1x12 16 ohm cab. The only thing I thought of was to have the 2x10 be 8 ohms, which would not be the optimal ohm level for the Fender, and change out the 1x12 speaker to an 8 ohm model, which would cost more money.

That's when Crusty mentioned the switchable cab idea for the 2x10. That way the Fender has its 4 ohm cab, and it can also be paired with my current 16 ohm cab for a total 8 ohm load for the Trinity, if I would want two cabs for a particular gig. Perfect!

I needed to be able to do any of this with cabs that were about 1x12 size. It turns out that the Avatar 2x10 is same size as the Avatar 1x12. I'm also aware that under certain conditions, one can mix speakers with different ohm ratings, but I didn't want to go that way.
 
Re: Dual Impedance Switch For 2 x 8 Ohm Speaker Cabinet (How To Do It)

Do speakers sound different when the run in series compared with parallel??
 
Re: Dual Impedance Switch For 2 x 8 Ohm Speaker Cabinet (How To Do It)

Do speakers sound different when the run in series compared with parallel??

To the best of my knowledge, and I am happy to stand corrected on this, while the resistance is different between series and parallel, as long as you can match the ohms between the amp and the speakers, there should be little or no difference.

The problem for me is that the Fender mentioned above has the output transformer rated at 4 ohms, and no 8 or 16 ohm taps. I wanted to run the amp at max volume potential, so to do that, I need a 4 ohm speaker load. Not that I can't run an 8 ohm cab, but I'll let someone more competent re tech knowledge get into the details of why I may get a volume drop.

In other words, the reason I'm playing around with series and parallel speaker wiring options is to match the amps being used in terms of ohm ratings.
 
Re: Dual Impedance Switch For 2 x 8 Ohm Speaker Cabinet (How To Do It)

how many volts and amps does the switch need to be rated to?
 
Re: Dual Impedance Switch For 2 x 8 Ohm Speaker Cabinet (How To Do It)

how many volts and amps does the switch need to be rated to?
A constant 100 watts and 4 ohms is 5 Amps...like the switch Crusty has in his diagram. Probably fine for most guitar players.
The voltage will be so low, so as not to be an issue.....250 Volt switch.
 
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Re: Dual Impedance Switch For 2 x 8 Ohm Speaker Cabinet (How To Do It)

Awesome Crusty! Most helpful!


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Re: Dual Impedance Switch For 2 x 8 Ohm Speaker Cabinet (How To Do It)

Considering selling my two 1 x 12s (one 8 ohm and one 16 ohm) and using a 2 x 12 setup like this, but the bummer is one of my heads prefers 8. Don't suppose with enough jacks and switches I could utilize both or one speaker at 8 ohms too?

In looking at this website, I think I'll need to do a mono/stereo thing with 16 & 8 (two 16s in stereo and 8 in mono with switchcraft stereo 14b jacks), and forget the 4. Just have to figure out cream backs or greenbacks now.

http://www.colomar.com/Shavano/2x12wiring.html
 
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