blueman335
Mojo's Minions
What pickup options are there for replacing the Sidewinder neck humbucker in an EB-3?
EB-3
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the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: EB-3
I assume you have an Epi and are talking about the mudbucker in the neck??
What do you want from the neck pickup??
I assume you have an Epi and are talking about the mudbucker in the neck??
What do you want from the neck pickup??
jon the art guy
Nerdy Nerd
Re: EB-3
There's the Model 1 and Will Power from Dimarzio. Both are Billy Sheehan endorsed.
There's the Model 1 and Will Power from Dimarzio. Both are Billy Sheehan endorsed.
Falloffthebonetone
New member
Re: EB-3
I was gonna say I think Dimarzio is the only brand that has that market covered, at least it's the first that comes to mind. I'll research a bit more. I know fender has a type of mudbucker too.
I was gonna say I think Dimarzio is the only brand that has that market covered, at least it's the first that comes to mind. I'll research a bit more. I know fender has a type of mudbucker too.
Falloffthebonetone
New member
Re: EB-3
Apparently Gotoh and Artec have some?
Apparently Gotoh and Artec have some?
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: EB-3
Correct. I'm looking for something with good clarity and definition. I'm thinking lower output would be best. It's an odd location for a bass PU, especially one that size.
Correct. I'm looking for something with good clarity and definition. I'm thinking lower output would be best. It's an odd location for a bass PU, especially one that size.
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: EB-3
Email Curtis Novak.
I think this is what you want:
http://curtisnovak.com/pickups/EB-AA.shtml
Email Curtis Novak.
I think this is what you want:
http://curtisnovak.com/pickups/EB-AA.shtml
jon the art guy
Nerdy Nerd
Re: EB-3
the stock EB3 sidewinder is at around 20K, and the Dimarzio Models are at 11k (Model 1) and 13ishk (the other one) ohms. I'm assuming the lower output makes for a heck of a difference in clarity on these things. I really like the bridge minihum sound, but the neck wallows out very fast (although I like that too; it's sustain for days with a fuzz pedal on)
the stock EB3 sidewinder is at around 20K, and the Dimarzio Models are at 11k (Model 1) and 13ishk (the other one) ohms. I'm assuming the lower output makes for a heck of a difference in clarity on these things. I really like the bridge minihum sound, but the neck wallows out very fast (although I like that too; it's sustain for days with a fuzz pedal on)
ItsaBass
New member
Re: EB-3
I'd save your money. Those basses aren't worth putting anything into IMO. I'd just go into that Mudbucker and wire the coils up in parallel instead of in series. Pad the pickup with gaffer tape while you are in there too, to keep it from rattling. (They just sit loose in there under the cover.)
I'd save your money. Those basses aren't worth putting anything into IMO. I'd just go into that Mudbucker and wire the coils up in parallel instead of in series. Pad the pickup with gaffer tape while you are in there too, to keep it from rattling. (They just sit loose in there under the cover.)
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Funkfingers
Guest
Re: EB-3
Yamaha used to make a 33k bass humbucker for the Attitude Custom and Attitude Special bass guitars. A version of this resurfaced on the BB-shaped Billy Sheehan model of the late Naughties. Bartolini might offer something.
The main issue is disguising the mudbucker cavity and screw holes.
Yamaha used to make a 33k bass humbucker for the Attitude Custom and Attitude Special bass guitars. A version of this resurfaced on the BB-shaped Billy Sheehan model of the late Naughties. Bartolini might offer something.
The main issue is disguising the mudbucker cavity and screw holes.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: EB-3
I'd use the dimarzio and back it off.
I'd use the dimarzio and back it off.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: EB-3
I got a DiMarzio Model One (11K). It's low output and 4 conductor, so I can wire it for coil cut. Should keep it from being muddy.
I got a DiMarzio Model One (11K). It's low output and 4 conductor, so I can wire it for coil cut. Should keep it from being muddy.
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Funkfingers
Guest
Re: EB-3
I have the Will Power variant of this pickup. In a Yamaha Attitude Special, I found it necessary to screw the middle position P style pickup down level with the scratchplate in order to get any sort of level match between the two pickups.
The truth is that, for Sheehan style bassing, the two pickups require independent signal and amplification chains. The amp for the mudbucker has to be turned up louder in order to achieve a balance.
On an EB style instrument, I would add active EQ. e.g. The SD/Basslines Blackouts for Bass 2-band system.
I have the Will Power variant of this pickup. In a Yamaha Attitude Special, I found it necessary to screw the middle position P style pickup down level with the scratchplate in order to get any sort of level match between the two pickups.
The truth is that, for Sheehan style bassing, the two pickups require independent signal and amplification chains. The amp for the mudbucker has to be turned up louder in order to achieve a balance.
On an EB style instrument, I would add active EQ. e.g. The SD/Basslines Blackouts for Bass 2-band system.
jon the art guy
Nerdy Nerd
Re: EB-3
Well, I tell ya. I know I'm on the opposite end of what everyone in the thread is wanting out of this bass, but I am loving the discrepancy in pickups on this. On every heavily effected setting I've run my EB3 through, the Mudbucker takes the growling grit of the signal and blasts it into meltdown. It's like hammering a second fuzz pedal on after the first gain channel. Love it love it love it.
Well, I tell ya. I know I'm on the opposite end of what everyone in the thread is wanting out of this bass, but I am loving the discrepancy in pickups on this. On every heavily effected setting I've run my EB3 through, the Mudbucker takes the growling grit of the signal and blasts it into meltdown. It's like hammering a second fuzz pedal on after the first gain channel. Love it love it love it.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: EB-3
I also like a difference between the two PU's, I'm trying to avoid a muddy/loose neck PU. Just unusual to have an overize HB in the neck slot like that. If the neck PU ever seems like overkill, I can drop back to single coil.
I also like a difference between the two PU's, I'm trying to avoid a muddy/loose neck PU. Just unusual to have an overize HB in the neck slot like that. If the neck PU ever seems like overkill, I can drop back to single coil.
Wattage
High Voltologist
Re: EB-3
sort of unearthing this thread since I might grab an EB-3
http://www.talkbass.com/threads/maybe-found-a-decent-gibson-mudbucker-replacement.392402/
sort of unearthing this thread since I might grab an EB-3
http://www.talkbass.com/threads/maybe-found-a-decent-gibson-mudbucker-replacement.392402/
jon the art guy
Nerdy Nerd
Re: EB-3
I've found a certain equilibrium with the pups in my EB3, but it could be an overall better experience I think. Mainly, I'd like a higher output minihum in the bridge position and lower output in the sidewinder. I have the Sidewinder at about 70% volume and use the 2 pickup setting for rhythm and full-sidewinder for over the top fuzz tones. There's a setting my my POD HD that's sort of a fuzz/envelope filter wah-type thing; sort of sounds like the bass from RATM's Mic Check off of Battle of LA.
TBH I would probably find this bass a pain if I was a normal bass player.
I've found a certain equilibrium with the pups in my EB3, but it could be an overall better experience I think. Mainly, I'd like a higher output minihum in the bridge position and lower output in the sidewinder. I have the Sidewinder at about 70% volume and use the 2 pickup setting for rhythm and full-sidewinder for over the top fuzz tones. There's a setting my my POD HD that's sort of a fuzz/envelope filter wah-type thing; sort of sounds like the bass from RATM's Mic Check off of Battle of LA.
TBH I would probably find this bass a pain if I was a normal bass player.
Wattage
High Voltologist
Re: EB-3
They certainly are a bit awkward but there is a certain sound you can get out of them that I like. I am a big Trevor Bolder fan (Spiders From Mars) and he in turn a huge Jack Bruce fan so they have an odd appeal to me. I do like the ridiculously long neck too I gotta admit.
They certainly are a bit awkward but there is a certain sound you can get out of them that I like. I am a big Trevor Bolder fan (Spiders From Mars) and he in turn a huge Jack Bruce fan so they have an odd appeal to me. I do like the ridiculously long neck too I gotta admit.
MortallyWounded
New member
Re: EB-3
The WillPower is also a wider pickup, which is also why it has a higher DC resistance (more wire = more resistance). The Model One fits in the Mudbucker (neck) position perfectly on the EB-0 and EB-3 basses. The WillPower's wider spacing fits the more common spacing of the Attitude. It also happens to fit nicely under the strings on the SG-style basses when you rout out the bridge position... which is what I plan on doing with my EpiBoner Zero once I get the neck straightened out. Even though it's listed as a neck p/u it will still give you some interesting tones in the bridge position.
The WillPower is also a wider pickup, which is also why it has a higher DC resistance (more wire = more resistance). The Model One fits in the Mudbucker (neck) position perfectly on the EB-0 and EB-3 basses. The WillPower's wider spacing fits the more common spacing of the Attitude. It also happens to fit nicely under the strings on the SG-style basses when you rout out the bridge position... which is what I plan on doing with my EpiBoner Zero once I get the neck straightened out. Even though it's listed as a neck p/u it will still give you some interesting tones in the bridge position.