EHX Stereo Memory Man w/ Hazarai vs The TC Electronic Nova Delay

James Rock

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Basically I want a delay with tap tempo and I'm finding it hard to choose between either of these as they are both in my price range (about 200-250 US). They both sound good (according to clips). I don't need a looping function although it would be fun to have.

TC Nova Pros
Has modulation on any setting (three too choose from).
Has tone knob going from digital to analog to tape.

EHX SMMH Pros
Has more extreme modulation.
Has decay control and high pass filter as well as low pass (not together though because they are on the same knob).

What would you choose and why?
 
Re: EHX Stereo Memory Man w/ Hazarai vs The TC Electronic Nova Delay

Have you seen this?

http://ehx.com/2008/manuals/stereo_memory_man_with_hazarai_manual.pdf

It looks like the EHX unit is possibly the most versatile, but it's a tough decision. I am also considering adding a delay and am agonizing over it. I have no experience with either of these, and they both get mixed reviews on Harmony_ Central. You could always buy both of them and then sell me the one you don't like for half price. I'm here to help.
 
Re: EHX Stereo Memory Man w/ Hazarai vs The TC Electronic Nova Delay

Hi

I bought the TC Nova, but i know nothing about the Memory Man.

The Nova is brilliant. The core sound is great, and i have become very critical about how pedals can rob precious guitar tone, either when operating or bypassed. As you mention, James Rock, there is a knob that can dial from digital through analogue to tape, and that in itself is an incredible feature. The tape sounds are fantastic, particularly when used with a touch of modulation. ( I sold my Roland Space Echo to buy this thing, and i haven't regretted it one bit).

It sounds like the Memory Man *might* have more control features, but the TC has sound quality that would be difficult to beat. It's like a studio quality rack unit in a pedal. Any time i have encountered TC owners, they love their pedals and will never part with them, often they have owned them for years and years and they still work as well as the day they were purchased. I expect to be using this thing for the remainder of my days, and i feel certain it is not going to disappoint me....in fact, i feel that it will still be thrilling me many years from now. The modulation may be subtle, but with sound quality as good as this, 'subtle' equates to pure class.

I am not connected in any way with the TC organisation, i simply don't have anything but praise for this product because it does what it should do at an extremely high quality level, probably as high as it can get.


but that's my humble opinion. I recommend going to hear one for yourself. It will not be wasted time, even if you buy something else. Maybe play through it with whatever guitar you are most intimately familiar, sound-wise, play clean and listen for the subtleties and the purity with which your guitar comes through. If it makes you smile, go have a beer for me.

cheers, neiL.
 
Re: EHX Stereo Memory Man w/ Hazarai vs The TC Electronic Nova Delay

Hi

I bought the TC Nova, but i know nothing about the Memory Man.

I am the opposite; I bought the Memory Man, but have not tried the Nova.

I can say that I am very happy with the EHX. I was looking primarily for a good delay in a pedal format with a really nice modulation and good bypass for the loop of my Stiletto (loop is not switchable). The EHX delay sounds very nice...comparable to the delay on my G-Major, but a little warmer/analog sounding. Of course, I love the modulation on the EHX, you can just swim in the ambience. I can't say I really like one better than the other (EHX vs. TC G-Major) - they are slightly different, but both are excellent. I would expect the Nova to compare with the G-Major in sound quality (outstanding!).

I think the deciding factor will be how important the modulation is to you. Try both and see what works best for you.
 
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Re: EHX Stereo Memory Man w/ Hazarai vs The TC Electronic Nova Delay

Is there subdivision capability on the EHX?
I looked at the 11 page manual online and thought that it might be too much for my little brain :)
 
Re: EHX Stereo Memory Man w/ Hazarai vs The TC Electronic Nova Delay

Hi

I bought the TC Nova, but i know nothing about the Memory Man.

The Nova is brilliant. The core sound is great, and i have become very critical about how pedals can rob precious guitar tone, either when operating or bypassed. As you mention, James Rock, there is a knob that can dial from digital through analogue to tape, and that in itself is an incredible feature.

cheers, neiL.

Yeah, I like the fact that you can dial in the tone on the repeats vs a "brown" switch on the T-Rex.

....... so you're saying the original tone is preserved fairly accurately? Where do you place it in your chain?
 
Re: EHX Stereo Memory Man w/ Hazarai vs The TC Electronic Nova Delay

hi

At the moment I use the Nova right before the amp input, i.e. after anything else ( I really only use overdrives, and occasionally chorus), because although my main amp is now built, I haven't got around to wiring up the effects loop yet. When the loop circuit is built, I plan to run the delay there (this particular loop is an all-tube affair that can be run in either series or parallel). The Nova has an adjustable input level so you can match it to guitars and/or loop levels.
 
Re: EHX Stereo Memory Man w/ Hazarai vs The TC Electronic Nova Delay

TC Nova Pros
Has modulation on any setting (three too choose from).

Is there a way to adjust the parameters of the modulations or do you only select? I really have all the modulation I need on my DMM but I am just curious.
 
Re: EHX Stereo Memory Man w/ Hazarai vs The TC Electronic Nova Delay

i have the hazarai and i like it.. doesnt feel like the ultimate delay pedal, but it has a lot of features, modulation is nice (dont expect a flanger pedal thou), you get a nice reverb sound out of it... and i happen to love that low-hi pass knob (i think its what broke the deal with me)

one thing i dont like about the pedal is that it feels fragile. i dont know exactly why but something inside me tells me to treat it with extra care.

havent tried the tc, but looking at the pictures it makes the smm look like a toy.....
 
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Re: EHX Stereo Memory Man w/ Hazarai vs The TC Electronic Nova Delay

Ha! Don't be decieved decieved by the pics, the TC weighs heaps for it's size and is built like a tank.
 
Re: EHX Stereo Memory Man w/ Hazarai vs The TC Electronic Nova Delay

thats exactly what im saying, the tc seems like a high end electronic...

the smm is a nice painted toy.

(aestethically speaking in any case.)
 
Re: EHX Stereo Memory Man w/ Hazarai vs The TC Electronic Nova Delay

Hmm thanks for the help still not sure either way. But I'm slightly tipping towards NOVA at the moment.
 
Re: EHX Stereo Memory Man w/ Hazarai vs The TC Electronic Nova Delay

Well, James ..... I just ordered a Nova today. I had a 15% coupon from Music 123 and have been trying to decide between about 6 units for a couple of weeks.

There are only two very low ratings for the TC unit on Harmony Central and it's possible, if not likely, that those two reviewers didn't read the manual.

Apparently there is a switch or switches so that you can select between guitar level for running in front of the amp and line level for running in an effects loop.

My budget with the coupon was a little higher than yours so I even considered the Eventide Time Factor and the T-Rex Replica, but the evidence was not convincing that either is worth the price they command.

If you like, I'll give you a full review in a week or so. Then you'll have a second opinion to compare to Crusty's.
 
Re: EHX Stereo Memory Man w/ Hazarai vs The TC Electronic Nova Delay

thats exactly what im saying, the tc seems like a high end electronic...

the smm is a nice painted toy.

(aestethically speaking in any case.)

Yeah, I am not a fan of the paint job either (on the SMM). Its good thing that the only thing looking at it is the bottom of my shoe.
 
Re: EHX Stereo Memory Man w/ Hazarai vs The TC Electronic Nova Delay

If you like, I'll give you a full review in a week or so. Then you'll have a second opinion to compare to Crusty's.
That would be great cheers.
 
Re: EHX Stereo Memory Man w/ Hazarai vs The TC Electronic Nova Delay

What would you choose and why?

I chose the TC Electronics, as much as anything, because I already have three EHX pedals. I like their analog stuff but not really the digital stuff I've used.

My Deluxe Memory Man (the old hard wired version) is the only pedal I would prefer not to play without. I got it in my head that I occasionally "need" longer delay tmes and thought the tap tempo would be a great option. I also reasoned that having nine presets would be useful, and I thought the subdivisions would certainly expand the sonic possibilities. As soon as I got a 20% discount coupon from Music 123 I ordered the Nova Delay. The clips sounded great. I've had it now for over a week and these are my observations:

Function
First, I have to say that the Nova Delay is very intuitive .... easy to set up and use. The presets are simple to lock in and they are easy to modify. Since I am an analog guy I had to get used to watching numbers spin while setting the DELAY rate. Basically, you turn the knob clockwise to lengthen the time between repeats and counterclockwise to shorten it. The farther you rotate the knob the faster it scrolls. You have to return to the 12 o'clock detent to make it stop. It takes a little practice to keep from overshooting the desired rate (first this way and then that). The display can be easily set to read in either beats per minute or milli-seconds. Per TC Electronics, the range is adjustable from 1 to 2290 MS. Just a side note - I set my DMM and the ND-1 right together and it seems I only get about 430 MS out of the Memory Man. After some experimentation I realize the 600 would be tolerable and 900 would be an ideal maximum. The ND-1 has substantially longer times available than I can foresee ever needing. The DELAY rate can be overridden simply by depressing the tap tempo switch twice while in manual or any preset mode.

The FEEDBACK knob sets the number of repeats. No explanation is necssary. It works fine.

The COLOR knob slightly adjusts the EQ of the repeats from the brightest "digital", through analog, to the darkest "tape" settings. The range of adjustment is somewhat limited, but in a good way. The "digital" setting is not too bright, and the "tape" setting is not too dark. The control is not notched so you can dial it in exactly as desired.

The MODULATION control sets the amount of modulation applied to the repeats. There are three modulation types selectable by the center switch in the row of five switches between the displays and the footswitches. The modulation is so subtle that I really couldn't discern any effect on the first setting. The second modulation type is also very mild (even with the MODULATION knob rotated to its maximum setting). The third modulation type adds a noticeable chorus type detuning effect to the repeats. Honestly, if quality modulated delay sounds are important to you this peadl may not be your best choice.

MIX-LEVEL - This is the knob that really caught me off guard. It truly adjusts the balance between dry and wet signals. Adjust it fully counterclockwise and you will not hear repeats. Adjust it fully clockwise and you hear only the delays with no dry signal at all. I am accustomed to a control that raises and lowers the level (loudness) of the repeats without disturbing the dry signal level. As it is designed, the fully clockwise setting is necessary for the optimum effect when using the reverse delay type.

DELAY TYPE -
"Delay Line" is the standard delay function.
"Dynamic" is a ducking delay ... that is, the delay backs off while you are playing and then comes back up between notes or after a phrase. This prevents repeats, particulary at higher wet signal levels, from clashing with real time playing. This functions beautifully and in my opinion is one of the strengths of this pedal.
"Reverse" is as its name implies. The repeats are actually your input in reverse. If you bend a note up it plays back as a note that was struck with the string under tension and then relieved. For the effect to function correctly, the FEEDBACK knob must be set low or perhaps zero'd so there is only one repeat. The MIX knob has to be maxed, and the DELAY knob has to be set for a short time. This is fun and it works great. Personally, I don't have the time, desire, or patience to learn to play ahead of a song so that the backward guitar line is in time.

To be continued ........
 
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Re: EHX Stereo Memory Man w/ Hazarai vs The TC Electronic Nova Delay

I have the EHX SMMWH and I have always been happy with it. In fact it is the only pedal that has remained constantly on my board for the three years I have been playing in a band again (except for the Fromel-modded Boss BF2). The SMMWH is very versatile and has storage for your own sounds, as well as tap tempo and a looper. I was considering a TC Nova, only because it has more storage slots, but TBH I have found I don't use all the ones in the SMM anyway.
 
Re: EHX Stereo Memory Man w/ Hazarai vs The TC Electronic Nova Delay

I chose the TC Electronics, as much as anything, because I already have three EHX pedals. I like their analog stuff but not really the digital stuff I've used.

My Deluxe Memory Man (the old hard wired version) is the only pedal I would prefer not to play without. I got it in my head that I occasionally "need" longer delay tmes and thought the tap tempo would be a great option. I also reasoned that having nine presets would be useful, and I thought the subdivisions would certainly expand the sonic possibilities. As soon as I got a 20% discount coupon from Music 123 I ordered the Nova Delay. The clips sounded great. I've had it now for over a week and these are my observations:

Function
First, I have to say that the Nova Delay is very intuitive .... easy to set up and use. The presets are simple to lock in and they are easy to modify. Since I am an analog guy I had to get used to watching numbers spin while setting the DELAY rate. Basically, you turn the knob clockwise to lengthen the time between repeats and counterclockwise to shorten it. The farther you rotate the knob the faster it scrolls. You have to return to the 12 o'clock detent to make it stop. It takes a little practice to keep from overshooting the desired rate (first this way and then that). The display can be easily set to read in either beats per minute or milli-seconds. Per TC Electronics, the range is adjustable from 1 to 2290 MS. Just a side note - I set my DMM and the ND-1 right together and it seems I only get about 430 MS out of the Memory Man. After some experimentation I realize the 600 would be tolerable and 900 would be an ideal maximum. The ND-1 has substantially longer times available than I can foresee ever needing. The DELAY rate can be overridden simply by depressing the tap tempo switch twice while in manual or any preset mode.

The FEEDBACK knob sets the number of repeats. No explanation is necssary. It works fine.

The COLOR knob slightly adjusts the EQ of the repeats from the brightest "digital", through analog, to the darkest "tape" settings. The range of adjustment is somewhat limited, but in a good way. The "digital" setting is not too bright, and the "tape" setting is not too dark. The control is not notched so you can dial it in exactly as desired.

The MODULATION control sets the amount of modulation applied to the repeats. There are three modulation types selectable by the center switch in the row of five switches between the displays and the footswitches. The modulation is so subtle that I really couldn't discern any effect on the first setting. The second modulation type is also very mild (even with the MODULATION knob rotated to its maximum setting). The third modulation type adds a noticeable chorus type detuning effect to the repeats. Honestly, if quality modulated delay sounds are important to you this peadl may not be your best choice.

MIX-LEVEL - This is the knob that really caught me off guard. It truly adjusts the balance between dry and wet signals. Adjust it fully counterclockwise and you will not hear repeats. Adjust it fully clockwise and you hear only the delays with no dry signal at all. I am accustomed to a control that raises and lowers the level (loudness) of the repeats without disturbing the dry signal level. As it is designed, the fully clockwise setting is necessary for the optimum effect when using the reverse delay type.

DELAY TYPE -
"Delay Line" is the standard delay function.
"Dynamic" is a ducking delay ... that is, the delay backs off while you are playing and then comes back up between notes or after a phrase. This prevents repeats, particulary at higher wet signal levels, from clashing with real time playing. This functions beautifully and in my opinion is one of the strengths of this pedal.
"Reverse" is as its name implies. The repeats are actually your input in reverse. If you bend a note up it plays back as a note that was struck with the string under tension and then relieved. For the effect to function correctly, the FEEDBACK knob must be set low or perhaps zero'd so there is only one repeat. The MIX knob has to be maxed, and the DELAY knob has to be set for a short time. This is fun and it works great. Personally, I don't have the time, desire, or patience to learn to play ahead of a song so that the backward guitar line is in time.

To be continued ........

Nice review. I have the NOVA delay also, and find it to be very musical and inspiring. I bought it on a whim after hearing it at a brick and mortar guitar store, something I haven't done it years. But it hooked me within minutes!
 
Re: EHX Stereo Memory Man w/ Hazarai vs The TC Electronic Nova Delay

Since this thread was started in 2008, we have come out with our new Andromeda, which a a great programmable digital delay.
 
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