EL34 Amps
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Mr. B
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Re: EL34 Amps
I think both the new Marshall DSL/TSL series, and the Mesa Stiletto ace have good clean channels. Much better than most older EL34 amps anyway. Fender has always been the gold standard for clean as far as I am concerned, but there you are not using EL34s, and its a different tone.
I think both the new Marshall DSL/TSL series, and the Mesa Stiletto ace have good clean channels. Much better than most older EL34 amps anyway. Fender has always been the gold standard for clean as far as I am concerned, but there you are not using EL34s, and its a different tone.
Re: EL34 Amps
Fender clean channel is the industry standard in which all other amps clean channels are compared to, IMHO. I've played through many tube amps and I love the Fender clean channel. I think most Fender tube amps use the 6L6 power tubes and not the EL34. Comparing with my old JCM 800 (EL34) clean channel and my Pro Reverb (6L6) clean channel...
-Fender has alot more "headroom". It sounds alot more "fuller".
-Marshall has more of a compressed sound.
I think EL34 powered amps shine more than any other power tubes when they are cranked. The EL34 breakup is the best, IMHO.
I'm wondering now what an EL34 powered Fender would sound like.
Bottom line: for the clean channel, I'd use nothing other than a Fender amp. my pro reverb is very chimey and clean. the overdrive channel simulates a cranked clean channel very closely too. the sustain is very nice too. i can get a nice warm feedback when i hold a note and vibrato it.
Fender clean channel is the industry standard in which all other amps clean channels are compared to, IMHO. I've played through many tube amps and I love the Fender clean channel. I think most Fender tube amps use the 6L6 power tubes and not the EL34. Comparing with my old JCM 800 (EL34) clean channel and my Pro Reverb (6L6) clean channel...
-Fender has alot more "headroom". It sounds alot more "fuller".
-Marshall has more of a compressed sound.
I think EL34 powered amps shine more than any other power tubes when they are cranked. The EL34 breakup is the best, IMHO.
I'm wondering now what an EL34 powered Fender would sound like.
Bottom line: for the clean channel, I'd use nothing other than a Fender amp. my pro reverb is very chimey and clean. the overdrive channel simulates a cranked clean channel very closely too. the sustain is very nice too. i can get a nice warm feedback when i hold a note and vibrato it.
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not sure. i heard they're no longer made in england. they're made in china. which really sucks.
not sure. i heard they're no longer made in england. they're made in china. which really sucks.
metallicaxlxl
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Re: EL34 Amps
w00t first time using multi quote thing haha
anyways, i think that vox are mostly el84 amps.
umm TRAYNOR 50blue!!!
w00t first time using multi quote thing haha
anyways, i think that vox are mostly el84 amps.
umm TRAYNOR 50blue!!!
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you know what, for some strange reason i knew in the back of my mind they used EL84s. little tubes for little amps. :laugh2: those el84s get HOT!
i don't like el84s too much. they break up at all the wrong places and in the wrong ways.
you know what, for some strange reason i knew in the back of my mind they used EL84s. little tubes for little amps. :laugh2: those el84s get HOT!
i don't like el84s too much. they break up at all the wrong places and in the wrong ways.
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Bah Fender cleans....I will take any old Hiwatt or Marshall, Vox over that.
Bah Fender cleans....I will take any old Hiwatt or Marshall, Vox over that.
metallicaxlxl
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Jeffrec
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Re: EL34 Amps
Vox uses El84s, which are essentially samller version of the El34. Both souond great, but when I think of an EL34, I think Marshall.
Vox uses El84s, which are essentially samller version of the El34. Both souond great, but when I think of an EL34, I think Marshall.
JeffB
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I'm kidding somewhat...I like the sounds from twins..but tweed is where it's at for Fender AFAIC.
Vox though...:smack: most of the time I wanna hurl. The only EL84 amps I've head that I really like are a couple of the 18W clones and the Gibson Goldtones. There is just something missing in the tone of an EL84 amp that drives me batty...some kind of frequency....they have no..ermmm..."guts".....and then they are too sweet on the top end (I think most refer to this as "chime"). Even a Fender twin set for pristine clean is full and gutsy.
Analogy:
EL84s =little european/japanese car horns :squeak: please get out of my way
EL34s: Pretty much any other horn on any other car :HONK: GET THE EFF OUTTA MY WAY
To answer the question though...I Think the Rivera Chubster has a great Fender like clean channel (black face or tweed) that gets into JTM45 territory with the ninja boost (its an EL 34 amp). Also a Bluesbreaker/JTM 45 has FANTASTIC cleans.
I'm kidding somewhat...I like the sounds from twins..but tweed is where it's at for Fender AFAIC.
Vox though...:smack: most of the time I wanna hurl. The only EL84 amps I've head that I really like are a couple of the 18W clones and the Gibson Goldtones. There is just something missing in the tone of an EL84 amp that drives me batty...some kind of frequency....they have no..ermmm..."guts".....and then they are too sweet on the top end (I think most refer to this as "chime"). Even a Fender twin set for pristine clean is full and gutsy.
Analogy:
EL84s =little european/japanese car horns :squeak: please get out of my way
EL34s: Pretty much any other horn on any other car :HONK: GET THE EFF OUTTA MY WAY
To answer the question though...I Think the Rivera Chubster has a great Fender like clean channel (black face or tweed) that gets into JTM45 territory with the ninja boost (its an EL 34 amp). Also a Bluesbreaker/JTM 45 has FANTASTIC cleans.
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Danglin' Fury
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Try playing through the Peavy JSX. They are shipping now with JJ EL34's and sound AWESOME! The cleans are really thick and chimey and it is a true 3 channel amp.The dirty channel gets an awesome classic rock/blues tone and the ultra channel (despite what the skeptics say) is a good channel for metal. Actually I think they have JJ's in the pre section too. Anyway, bottom line, great cleans and crunch for under $1,500. Out!:bowdown:
Try playing through the Peavy JSX. They are shipping now with JJ EL34's and sound AWESOME! The cleans are really thick and chimey and it is a true 3 channel amp.The dirty channel gets an awesome classic rock/blues tone and the ultra channel (despite what the skeptics say) is a good channel for metal. Actually I think they have JJ's in the pre section too. Anyway, bottom line, great cleans and crunch for under $1,500. Out!:bowdown:
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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The only Fender stuff I ever am going to like is Tweeds, small to big ones
EL-84's can sound great Jeff
You just have not heard the right amps yet
The only Fender stuff I ever am going to like is Tweeds, small to big ones
EL-84's can sound great Jeff
You just have not heard the right amps yet
Re: EL34 Amps
agreed 100%.
i'm still convinced that no EL34 powered amp can have the headroom that 6L6 amps provide. that headroom has alot to do with good clean sounds. my EL34 jcm 800 sounded "nasal" in comparison to my fender.
agreed 100%.
i'm still convinced that no EL34 powered amp can have the headroom that 6L6 amps provide. that headroom has alot to do with good clean sounds. my EL34 jcm 800 sounded "nasal" in comparison to my fender.
Gearjoneser
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Try a Hiwatt, Bogner, Marshall Super Lead or Superbass, and Matchless/Bad Cat.
Try a Hiwatt, Bogner, Marshall Super Lead or Superbass, and Matchless/Bad Cat.
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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6L6's have that nasty ping to them...my Hiwatt never had that.
6L6's have that nasty ping to them...my Hiwatt never had that.
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Yah, I do like the Fender Cleans. However after listening to some clips on www.jacksonampworks.com, im convinced that the chime, midrange, and sparkle is in the UK style amps. Any suggestions? Other than the Jackson stuff?
Ty
Yah, I do like the Fender Cleans. However after listening to some clips on www.jacksonampworks.com, im convinced that the chime, midrange, and sparkle is in the UK style amps. Any suggestions? Other than the Jackson stuff?
Ty
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