engl Vs mesa Vs marshall
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Loserchief
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Re: engl Vs mesa Vs marshall
Engls will be the tightest of the three with super tight lows and overall a pretty "in your face" sound and feeling to them. Distortion wise they are a bit like mesas with more midrange and a less flubby lowend. Most Engls have enough gain available to never let you down when you need it(Powerballs and savages are monsters considering gain).
Mesas have probably about the same amount of gain as EngLs but the bass isn't as tight and imo the midrange feels and sounds a little scooped to me(at least on the rectos). Like the Engls the sound is modern but darker in comparison.
I personally have no experience with the Marshall JCM 900
If you detune a lot you should get a Powerball, it will be tighter in the lowend and prevent your sound from mudding out. Just play all three and go with what sounds best to you.
Engls will be the tightest of the three with super tight lows and overall a pretty "in your face" sound and feeling to them. Distortion wise they are a bit like mesas with more midrange and a less flubby lowend. Most Engls have enough gain available to never let you down when you need it(Powerballs and savages are monsters considering gain).
Mesas have probably about the same amount of gain as EngLs but the bass isn't as tight and imo the midrange feels and sounds a little scooped to me(at least on the rectos). Like the Engls the sound is modern but darker in comparison.
I personally have no experience with the Marshall JCM 900
If you detune a lot you should get a Powerball, it will be tighter in the lowend and prevent your sound from mudding out. Just play all three and go with what sounds best to you.
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Jeff Dunne
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Re: engl Vs mesa Vs marshall
Engl Fireball unless you need the other stuff. I'd also look into the Savage, as well.
Engl Fireball unless you need the other stuff. I'd also look into the Savage, as well.
geobarzac
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Re: engl Vs mesa Vs marshall
i'm not gettin a mode four.
and the distorsion on the powerball sounds good but what about the cleans? where can i get them online? and whats a good cab for it? and is it capable of gettin a good mcr sound? (sorry i can't try them out since i don't have any music stores that sell them around me)
what about the rivera knucklehead?
i'm not gettin a mode four.
and the distorsion on the powerball sounds good but what about the cleans? where can i get them online? and whats a good cab for it? and is it capable of gettin a good mcr sound? (sorry i can't try them out since i don't have any music stores that sell them around me)
what about the rivera knucklehead?
Loserchief
SwingingIdiot
Re: engl Vs mesa Vs marshall
imo the powerball has some very good and adjustable cleans especially for a high gain amp, just get a z-5 footswitch with it to switch between the four channels. There are alot of good cabs you could use, but imo the best sounding one i've tried it with are the Engl pro cabs(with Vintage 30s instead of the V60s). Imo those have alot more mojo and jsut somehow sound more alive. No idea about MCR about the Powerball has a huge range of tone and do pretty muchg everything once you tweak it the right way.
imo the powerball has some very good and adjustable cleans especially for a high gain amp, just get a z-5 footswitch with it to switch between the four channels. There are alot of good cabs you could use, but imo the best sounding one i've tried it with are the Engl pro cabs(with Vintage 30s instead of the V60s). Imo those have alot more mojo and jsut somehow sound more alive. No idea about MCR about the Powerball has a huge range of tone and do pretty muchg everything once you tweak it the right way.
shredaholic
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Re: engl Vs mesa Vs marshall
my chemical romance? lol
my chemical romance? lol
Nightburst
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Re: engl Vs mesa Vs marshall
Listen to these! Lot's of Engl clips.
http://rocksolidamps.com/sounds.php
I would still think you'd be happy with a dual recto for most of the stuff you mentioned. Don't rule out the Stiletto either, it's got great cleans and lot's of gain on tap! With the marshall you will need a pedal to boost the gain and low mids.
Listen to these! Lot's of Engl clips.
http://rocksolidamps.com/sounds.php
I would still think you'd be happy with a dual recto for most of the stuff you mentioned. Don't rule out the Stiletto either, it's got great cleans and lot's of gain on tap! With the marshall you will need a pedal to boost the gain and low mids.
Loserchief
SwingingIdiot
Re: engl Vs mesa Vs marshall
those powerball clips give a pretty exact picture of how a powerball will sound. In your face and super tight. Dry crunch and immense gain reserves.
those powerball clips give a pretty exact picture of how a powerball will sound. In your face and super tight. Dry crunch and immense gain reserves.
Nightburst
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Re: engl Vs mesa Vs marshall
I always wondered are those clips close to the actual thing? I guess Engl is not my bag then :eek13:.
It apears to me that most clips have a very middy sound dialed in. I wonder if it's inherent to the amp's nature or that most clips are done with a 81 in the bridge...
Loserchief said:
I always wondered are those clips close to the actual thing? I guess Engl is not my bag then :eek13:.
It apears to me that most clips have a very middy sound dialed in. I wonder if it's inherent to the amp's nature or that most clips are done with a 81 in the bridge...
geobarzac
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Re: engl Vs mesa Vs marshall
how would this setup do for the tones i want? with ether the mesa or marshall.
epi elitst les paul custom
morley mark tremoni power wah
zakk wylde overdrive (i hear it's more like distorsion pedal)
boss sd-1 super overdrive.
boss ac-3 acustic simulater
isp noise decimater
and what picks are better? dunlop big stubbys or snarling dogs brainpicks?
how would this setup do for the tones i want? with ether the mesa or marshall.
epi elitst les paul custom
morley mark tremoni power wah
zakk wylde overdrive (i hear it's more like distorsion pedal)
boss sd-1 super overdrive.
boss ac-3 acustic simulater
isp noise decimater
and what picks are better? dunlop big stubbys or snarling dogs brainpicks?
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Forbes
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Re: engl Vs mesa Vs marshall
Shred? lol
shredaholic said:
Shred? lol
F
Forbes
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Re: engl Vs mesa Vs marshall
Picks is a general preference thing man, pick loads and try them for size. Theres alot of tones you want to cover in all the bands you like, it really is going to be a case of trying stuff out and finding the best thing, it's hard to recommend when theres so many different sounds you want to emulate.
geobarzac said:
Picks is a general preference thing man, pick loads and try them for size. Theres alot of tones you want to cover in all the bands you like, it really is going to be a case of trying stuff out and finding the best thing, it's hard to recommend when theres so many different sounds you want to emulate.
geobarzac
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Re: engl Vs mesa Vs marshall
well to be more specific i really mainly play my chemical romance and metallica. i'm really not too concerd with the others stuff. but if it could play trivium, and some turbonegro i would be happy.
i wish i could try it out but theres really no good music stores around hear
well to be more specific i really mainly play my chemical romance and metallica. i'm really not too concerd with the others stuff. but if it could play trivium, and some turbonegro i would be happy.
i wish i could try it out but theres really no good music stores around hear