Hello everyone . I have a distortion in the bridge but I feel that the notes when I am riffing are so confused . I play for example a chord and I cannot listen the separate notes but one ... I don't know how to explain better . I hope you understand . I thought of emgs but I wanna give a chance to Duncan ones more ...
ESP horizon bridge pup ?
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Falloffthebonetone
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Typical 81, 60, 85 Emgs won't help. I recommend the SD Full Shred.
Typical 81, 60, 85 Emgs won't help. I recommend the SD Full Shred.
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I thought that emgs are famous for their clarity and definition . Am I wrong ?
I thought that emgs are famous for their clarity and definition . Am I wrong ?
vinta9e
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Clarity and definition... mean different things to people who use four note chords and those who don't.
In a high gain, low polyphony situation, EMGs can deliver a tight sound that fits into the band mix without manipulation. Their "clarity and definition" shows best in fast single note runs and low tuned dyads.
Try the PATB1 if you want a passive Duncan.
Clarity and definition... mean different things to people who use four note chords and those who don't.
In a high gain, low polyphony situation, EMGs can deliver a tight sound that fits into the band mix without manipulation. Their "clarity and definition" shows best in fast single note runs and low tuned dyads.
Try the PATB1 if you want a passive Duncan.
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Definitely avoid 81tw, it's supposed to be an 81 with a tacked on switchable SA, but its got that very "something not quite right, cant put a finger on it" nature that seems to be your issue with the DD
If you dislike the distortion pup, maybe first listen to JB and normal 81 - the most typical pups for ESPs - and see if either seems right for you? If not then start looking at others....those two are at least guaranteed to be good for something in your specific guitar, with others youd have to see about how they do with its body/neck/fingerboard wood configurations... ESPs being good enough to really shine with the right pups, its a guitar where the wrong pup would really grate on you. Not because its soooo bad, but because it could and should have been *just right*
Definitely avoid 81tw, it's supposed to be an 81 with a tacked on switchable SA, but its got that very "something not quite right, cant put a finger on it" nature that seems to be your issue with the DD
If you dislike the distortion pup, maybe first listen to JB and normal 81 - the most typical pups for ESPs - and see if either seems right for you? If not then start looking at others....those two are at least guaranteed to be good for something in your specific guitar, with others youd have to see about how they do with its body/neck/fingerboard wood configurations... ESPs being good enough to really shine with the right pups, its a guitar where the wrong pup would really grate on you. Not because its soooo bad, but because it could and should have been *just right*
Falloffthebonetone
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Exactly. Typical emgs have poor string separation but fantastic single note presence. Something less compressed would be the ideal, so each string responds differently to the touch, rather than into a narrowed frequency.
Exactly. Typical emgs have poor string separation but fantastic single note presence. Something less compressed would be the ideal, so each string responds differently to the touch, rather than into a narrowed frequency.
MkIII Renegade
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I agree with Duncan Full Shred if you want to stay passive. For actives, go EMG 85. It is fuller and less thrashy sounding than the 81, but still with unmatched clarity even with mega gain. I do love the 81 for heavy LP type guitars, however.
I agree with Duncan Full Shred if you want to stay passive. For actives, go EMG 85. It is fuller and less thrashy sounding than the 81, but still with unmatched clarity even with mega gain. I do love the 81 for heavy LP type guitars, however.
SGFanatic
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What kind of amp are you using? I've never really had issues with the SH-6 not sounding clear.
The more gain you drive the amp with the less "definition" you'll have.
I like powerful pickups so I can turn the pre gain down on the amp and have the most note definition out of the rig.
The JB is smoother and will give you a nice lead tone, if that's your thing.
Hope that helps.
What kind of amp are you using? I've never really had issues with the SH-6 not sounding clear.
The more gain you drive the amp with the less "definition" you'll have.
I like powerful pickups so I can turn the pre gain down on the amp and have the most note definition out of the rig.
The JB is smoother and will give you a nice lead tone, if that's your thing.
Hope that helps.
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Hey guys unfortunatelly , i dont know the reason why , but no notifications for replies came to my email , so i didnt know that you were answering to my issue all this time. So I am sorry for that.
I have les paul on the other hand with bare knuckle black dogs and except the fact that this guitar sounds brutal , it has a great separation in notes too... So thats why I am complaining . I play with a marshall jvm... So to conclude , full shred or jb ?
Hey guys unfortunatelly , i dont know the reason why , but no notifications for replies came to my email , so i didnt know that you were answering to my issue all this time. So I am sorry for that.
I have les paul on the other hand with bare knuckle black dogs and except the fact that this guitar sounds brutal , it has a great separation in notes too... So thats why I am complaining . I play with a marshall jvm... So to conclude , full shred or jb ?
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i'm surprised nobody's mentioned it before, but it's essential to ask if you've tried playing a bit with the pickup height. sometimes that help clearing up the unwanted 'extra noise' a bit. but if you're out of options and want to switch pickup, i can second that the Full Shred has amazing note/string separation, and was a definite step up from my Custom Custom in terms of general clarity. however i don't know how different from your Distortion that will be, i've never tried one before.
i'm surprised nobody's mentioned it before, but it's essential to ask if you've tried playing a bit with the pickup height. sometimes that help clearing up the unwanted 'extra noise' a bit. but if you're out of options and want to switch pickup, i can second that the Full Shred has amazing note/string separation, and was a definite step up from my Custom Custom in terms of general clarity. however i don't know how different from your Distortion that will be, i've never tried one before.
MkIII Renegade
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Max chord clarity probably goes to the JB. And it can dish out all the thrash all you want with a high gain amp!
Max chord clarity probably goes to the JB. And it can dish out all the thrash all you want with a high gain amp!
youngthrasher9
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I honestly wouldln't peg the JB as very good on note separation. I would try the full shred. I've never used it, but I do have experience with the design that makes that pickup super articulate (hex pole screws).
I honestly wouldln't peg the JB as very good on note separation. I would try the full shred. I've never used it, but I do have experience with the design that makes that pickup super articulate (hex pole screws).
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If your LP with black dogs sounds great through your Marshall back track from your eq on your amp, I'm willing to bet you are using more gain with black dogs than you need with the Duncan Distortions....try taking the gain down, lower everything a little bit... I bet this is more of an issue with your eq.....
If your LP with black dogs sounds great through your Marshall back track from your eq on your amp, I'm willing to bet you are using more gain with black dogs than you need with the Duncan Distortions....try taking the gain down, lower everything a little bit... I bet this is more of an issue with your eq.....
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I ll try this... I amp afraid of changind the distortion because horizon is a bit dark sounding and distortion is bright enough to make a more open sound. With jb was darker. I dont know what will happen with the full shred. Because note separation is the first issue but brightness is the second one... I ll try to reduse the gain a bit...
What your experience with the dimebucker ?
I ll try this... I amp afraid of changind the distortion because horizon is a bit dark sounding and distortion is bright enough to make a more open sound. With jb was darker. I dont know what will happen with the full shred. Because note separation is the first issue but brightness is the second one... I ll try to reduse the gain a bit...
What your experience with the dimebucker ?
