Fair Warning Tone
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Re: Fair Warning Tone
I dont know exactly what pickup is in the reissue kramer, but to get that era EVH tone you do not want a high output pickup. If it is no more than 10k (about 9k is ideal), you should be able to get a decent EVH tone (the amp is more important - ideally you need a non master volume marshall). But if it is more like 13-16k, then i would definitely suggest changing the pickup, as that will likely be too hot/ compressed for that tone. I have a custom shop EVH, and that will definitely do the job, though a 59 is also pretty close and a lot cheaper.
The main point is that without the right amp you will find it very difficult to get that tone. I have an axis with an custom shop EVH. I have tried it through a load a load of different amps, and it only approached EVH tone when i tried it through a 1987x reissue. Even through my jmp master volume, it doesnt really have that EVH vibe.
Between a 59 and EVH, i would say that the EVH is a little closer. It has slightly more mid presence and better harmonics, and a more EVH like clean tone.
I dont know exactly what pickup is in the reissue kramer, but to get that era EVH tone you do not want a high output pickup. If it is no more than 10k (about 9k is ideal), you should be able to get a decent EVH tone (the amp is more important - ideally you need a non master volume marshall). But if it is more like 13-16k, then i would definitely suggest changing the pickup, as that will likely be too hot/ compressed for that tone. I have a custom shop EVH, and that will definitely do the job, though a 59 is also pretty close and a lot cheaper.
The main point is that without the right amp you will find it very difficult to get that tone. I have an axis with an custom shop EVH. I have tried it through a load a load of different amps, and it only approached EVH tone when i tried it through a 1987x reissue. Even through my jmp master volume, it doesnt really have that EVH vibe.
Between a 59 and EVH, i would say that the EVH is a little closer. It has slightly more mid presence and better harmonics, and a more EVH like clean tone.
Re: Fair Warning Tone
Oh man, I was just listening to that album this weekend, and I hadn't listened to it in years. "Push Comes to Shove" has some of my fave EVH work- it shows off how he could actually play subtler oh so tasty when he wanted to. And who knew Marc Anthony could play bass like that?
fftopic: sorry 'bout that... I can't tell you what he used. Rumor is that the CC was his pickup, but the experts here in the forum can correct me if I'm way off base.
Oh man, I was just listening to that album this weekend, and I hadn't listened to it in years. "Push Comes to Shove" has some of my fave EVH work- it shows off how he could actually play subtler oh so tasty when he wanted to. And who knew Marc Anthony could play bass like that?
fftopic: sorry 'bout that... I can't tell you what he used. Rumor is that the CC was his pickup, but the experts here in the forum can correct me if I'm way off base.Re: Fair Warning Tone
I think so as well. Fair Warning, to me, sounds like a hotter pickup through EVH's standard plexi.
mjsever said:
I think so as well. Fair Warning, to me, sounds like a hotter pickup through EVH's standard plexi.
Re: Fair Warning Tone
I have heard people say that he used a CC on fair warning/ 1984, but I completely disagree. The CC is just too compressed, with too much mids and too little top end. I just dont think he used a higher output humbucker till after 1984.
taphappy
The specs look very similar indeed to a JB.
And it will be very difficult to get more than a loose approximation to the EVH tone on an AVT.
I have heard people say that he used a CC on fair warning/ 1984, but I completely disagree. The CC is just too compressed, with too much mids and too little top end. I just dont think he used a higher output humbucker till after 1984.
taphappy
The specs look very similar indeed to a JB.
And it will be very difficult to get more than a loose approximation to the EVH tone on an AVT.
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Re: Fair Warning Tone
I can get it with a Custom, but the amp has alot to do with it.
I can get it with a Custom, but the amp has alot to do with it.
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Re: Fair Warning Tone
This past weekend I was messing around with my practice set up and out of the blue I NAILED Eddie's tone from the first album. I wasn't even trying, I don't particularly like his tone all that much (BLASPHEMY!!). Anyway, I was using my BC Rich Warlock (see signature) with a CC in the bridge into a Barber DDSS into a 1983 Marshall Lead 12 SOLID STATE practice amp. I kid you not, I nailed his tone and if I ever figure out how to do it I'll post some clips. I just thought it was ironic that I was able to get this highly sought after, "elusive" tone out of the gear that I was using.
Anyway, the point is you can get away with just about any SD medium-high output humbucker into an older Marshall and get his tone. Then all you have to do is play like him...........
Cheers,
CJ
This past weekend I was messing around with my practice set up and out of the blue I NAILED Eddie's tone from the first album. I wasn't even trying, I don't particularly like his tone all that much (BLASPHEMY!!). Anyway, I was using my BC Rich Warlock (see signature) with a CC in the bridge into a Barber DDSS into a 1983 Marshall Lead 12 SOLID STATE practice amp. I kid you not, I nailed his tone and if I ever figure out how to do it I'll post some clips. I just thought it was ironic that I was able to get this highly sought after, "elusive" tone out of the gear that I was using.
Anyway, the point is you can get away with just about any SD medium-high output humbucker into an older Marshall and get his tone. Then all you have to do is play like him...........
Cheers,
CJ
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