"Fat Strat" wiring question

StormJH1

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Here's a home modding project I've been working on with a Peavey Raptor EXP Plus. These are basically "entry level" guitars, but the neck is super thin and playable, and I really liked the neck and middle single coils. They are definitely ceramic, but the combination of being overwound and perhaps the oversized pole pieces really gives them a great sparkle and punch.

Anyway, there's a single volume and master tone control. I don't know if the stock pots were 250k, but they are cheap components and starting to die anyway. I want to get some real CTS pots in there.

My question is this: How do you wire tone on Fat Strats? On another H-S-S guitar, I have a single 250k pot, except the bridge humbucker on that one is a TB-4 Seymour Duncan Trembucker, which is basically meant to be used with 250k.

In THIS guitar, I currently have a GFS Alnico Fat Pat, which I actually like. I've heard people say that it's similar to a JB/Trembucker in a lot of ways, so perhaps a 250k pot will be just fine. But I also (accidentally) won an eBay bid for some GFS Crunchy Rails:

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They're pretty high-output, though I don't think they're as absurdly thick as the GFS Power Rails, or something like a Duncan Detonator or Invader. Some people use 500k or even 1000k pots on those to open them up.

Question: If it were your project, would you be okay with a 250k pot (.047 cap) for the GFS Fat Pat? What about for the Crunchy Rails?
 
Re: "Fat Strat" wiring question

Start with American-made A250k pots. These will keep the underslung ceramic bar magnet single coils from getting too edgy. (Works on G&L MFD single coils.) The humbucker will have to take its chances.

If the A250k does not suit the humbucker, compromise with an A300k pot.

Test the Crunch Rails another time.
 
Re: "Fat Strat" wiring question

Also, and this just my preference, but I like .022uf or .033uf tone caps. I think it gives slightly better hi-freq control.
 
Re: "Fat Strat" wiring question

Start with American-made A250k pots. These will keep the underslung ceramic bar magnet single coils from getting too edgy. (Works on G&L MFD single coils.) The humbucker will have to take its chances.

If the A250k does not suit the humbucker, compromise with an A300k pot.

Test the Crunch Rails another time.
Ha probably good advice on the Crunch Rails. The Fat Pat is actually a nice pickup to give serious depth to an otherwise "thin" sounding guitar. I know people dump on GFS pickups a lot (this being a Duncan forum, obviously), but I'm glad I got to solder in some cheaper pickups before i took a 30 watt iron to a $70 SD and started messing around!

Thanks, I will try the 250k pot. I have a full size one from WD, but there might also be a new Fender CTS in my spare parts that I'd prefer to use, if it works.
 
Re: "Fat Strat" wiring question

Also, and this just my preference, but I like .022uf or .033uf tone caps. I think it gives slightly better hi-freq control.

No doubt. That's definitely something I can switch later though - I'd like to see what the .047 does to these single coils first. But yes, a lower number cap would be brighter, and you'd have still have the ability to roll it off.
 
Re: "Fat Strat" wiring question

I know people dump on GFS pickups a lot (this being a Duncan forum, obviously) but I'm glad I got to solder in some cheaper pickups before i took a 30 watt iron to a $70 SD and started messing around.

This forum is very open to pickups of all brands. Some members even write nice things about Epiphone Waxbuckers.

The name of the game is matching pickups to guitars. A brash single coil can compensate for a slightly lifeless instrument. A "better" pickup might prove to be less suitable.

My Epiphone B. B. King Lucille has Tonerider humbuckers. I had previously tried two Seymour Duncan pickups. These came out for two reasons: 1) Their open bobbins looked wrong. 2) They revealed some of the shortcomings of other components in the guitar. I chose two Tonerider models of similar specs to the Duncans except with gold-plated closed metal covers.

If the finished article sounds good to you, it is.
 
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