Fender Champion 20

[AthenasDad]

Hi everyone, new member here. I have recently started playing my first electric..a Squier Strat Vintage 70s Modified. Just wondering how many of you have one or have used one. I am trying to achieve that Sabbath type tone. It seems that i cannot achieve this tone and was wondering what you all think of this amp. Im not sure if its my stock cheapo electronics or something else.
Thanks

 

[FuseG4]

Re: Fender Champion 20

I have one.
Umm for Sabbath I dunno I like the early tones, songs like The Wizard and Paranoid. and I get it best by using the third high gain amp model. They high gain ones are supersonic, mesa-ish model, Evh 5150 III ish model. The 5150 type has the sustain you need otherwise if you can crank it try the third British voicing the modern one because it has more mids but less gain so amp needs to be loud.
Use the neck pickup with the tone knob rolled off

It won't be dead on as close as it gets

Then, save for an orange or15

 

[FuseG4]

Re: Fender Champion 20

The missing thing is that you want a Gibson scale guitar with a low output neck pickup, my Epiphone less Paul gets me way closer than my strat

 

[Darg1911]

Re: Fender Champion 20

Rangemaster ...

 

[FuseG4]

Re: Fender Champion 20

Rangemaster ...

he might have to do without that,
I dunno it's a digital amp and while I havent thrown a rangemaster in front of it, it doesn't react to boost/OD/distortion pedals the way a tube amp does. it's much quicker to get farty, splatty, nasty in a bad way.

rangemaster clones are not expensive so could be worth a shot

 

[Mincer]

Re: Fender Champion 20

Well, I started by playing Sabbath on a cheap amp with a distortion pedal. In fact Tony Iommi used a Strat for some of the first Sabbath album. My first thought is a pickup change to a Hot Rails in the bridge, but you can boost the gain after the guitar, too.

 

[Darg1911]

Re: Fender Champion 20

he might have to do without that,
I dunno it's a digital amp and while I havent thrown a rangemaster in front of it, it doesn't react to boost/OD/distortion pedals the way a tube amp does. it's much quicker to get farty, splatty, nasty in a bad way.

rangemaster clones are not expensive so could be worth a shot

Nah. I wouldn't bother if it's not a tube amp. I was just pointing out that it's pretty well known that Iommi used one.

 

[kingsnake]

Re: Fender Champion 20

Starting out, i wouldn't be obsessed with "nailing" the tone and focus on nailing actually playing the songs. Tone is worthless if you can't jam in the first place.

I have been playing guitar for 20+ years and have a champ 20 in my living room that i play every day. Guests often compliment the tone and i regularly play sabbath tunes!

It's a great value for $100 imo!

 

[AthenasDad]

Re: Fender Champion 20

Thanks all for your insight and opinions.....I think I might have made a mistake buying a Squier Strat..........instead of a
Epiphone Les Paul.......

 

[FuseG4]

Re: Fender Champion 20

Thanks all for your insight and opinions.....I think I might have made a mistake buying a Squier Strat..........instead of a
Epiphone Les Paul.......

You can always find a way to trade but if you work with the squier long enough you will still find good tones
In the end you should have both.
And if it's Sabbath you really want, go for the Epiphone g400

 

[Mincer]

Re: Fender Champion 20

To be fair, an LP feels a lot different than a Strat, and so does an SG. I like the feel of a Strat better than the weight of an LP or the lack of balance in an SG. So when I was a teenager, I tried to get my Strat to sound like Sabbath, too.