Fender The Twin Red Knob 87-94

Warlag

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Hey I'm new to the forums here and this is my first time posting. I'll start by saying hey to everyone. I'm a fender lover and some what new to gear collecting. I might be getting a 87-94 fender twin red knob. I was hopeing to hear your opinions on them? I'm mostly getting it for the beautiful fender clean channel. Is there anything I should keep an eye out for with them or any good mods for them? I'm tradeing my Gibson les Paul studio 60s traditional for it. Let me know what you guys think please! Thanks!
 
Re: Fender The Twin Red Knob 87-94

The Red Knobs are becoming more and more sought after. The cleans are wonderful, especially with an acoustic guitar. These are great amps for country, jazz, and blues. I don't remember if the Twin has gain, if it does Red Knobs are very high gain amps. If you are looking for metal, especially 80's metal you will be in heaven. They have a very compressed tone. If you are looking for 60's - 70's crunch, it is hard to coax it out of these amps. IMO they do not do crunch very well. I have used multiple pedals with mine with lukewarm results in that area.
 
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i had a red knob twin for years. its big heavy and loud. the dirt channel is a little odd but its usable, the clean isnt exactly bf fender clean but its really good.
 
Re: Fender The Twin Red Knob 87-94

The Red Knobs are becoming more and more sought after. The cleans are wonderful, especially with an acoustic guitar. These are great amps for country, jazz, and blues. I don't remember if the Twin has gain, if it does Red Knobs are very high gain amps. If you are looking for metal, especially 80's metal you will be in heaven. They have a very compressed tone. If you are looking for 60's - 70's crunch, it is hard to coax it out of these amps. IMO they do not do crunch very well. I have used multiple pedals with mine with lukewarm results in that area.

i had a red knob twin for years. its big heavy and loud. the dirt channel is a little odd but its usable, the clean isnt exactly bf fender clean but its really good.

I recently picked up an '87 Dual Showman head, essentially the same amp from what I understand, and I'm finding the above 2 to be accurate. A bit of a sleeper in that it is a really decent amp that has not received much attention recently. I got it to drive a new Fender 810 Pro cab I got new for ridiculously cheap.
Far as I can tell, if it may be a waste unless you can crank it up. But mine has the hi/lo output switch, and I haven't explored the low yet, so maybe that is tamer.
 
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Clean tones are decent, not quite BF caliber but close. Lead channel will not sing like a Boogie. I found it best to use it with really low gain settings for more of a bluesy breakup, than the soaring lead tones of a Boogie. Not trading my Boogie for one.

Another issue that these have is that the construction has not proven to be super durable, especially with jacks, pots and switches soldered directly to the PCB. Noise can be a problem too. A speaker swap may be advisible. Active EQ may actually be more difficult to dial in than typical passive Fender EQ.

Before I got into Mesa, I almost bought a red-knob Twin several times. Back in the '90s, a friend bought a Super 60 after I'd bought my Mark III--it was a big mistake...and he knew it as soon as he bought it.

If you want to start a Fender collection, I'd go for vintage amps--clean, unmodified BF amps and cabs. On a budget? Then look for '67 or '68 Drip Rail SF amps...those with basically BF specs. How about a collection of the Paul Rivera-designed amps? (The Super Champ I had was KILLER!) I've wanted such a collection for years, but I've instead collected a stable of Mesa amps. These fit my style better...and I take them all out to gig with.

IMHO, I just don't see the red knobs amps appreciating much in value, where the BF and SF amps probably will.

Bill
 
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Only 4 months late here, and you have probably bought and sold it or decided against it, but for what it's worth the best mod you can do for this amp is put castors on it or buy a good hand cart. Forget about improving the drive channel unless you pay for a dumble mod which apparently can be done on these. pedals into clean channel is best option for any kind of dirt or drive imo. Unless you are a wiz with the dials and channel blending. If you bought it for cleans, which it sounds like you did, it's loud and in your face with stock Emi special design speakers and "made for Fender power tubes".The Emis are really efficient and would make great speakers for somebody wanting more perceived power or volume from a combo, but they are just a wee bit stiff and in yer face in the RKT, I replaced power tubes with some TAD shorts ( just a pair) and run it at 50 watts with impedance switch down to 8 ohms. I also put in a WGS ET65 and a WGS G10C with a converter. These mods make a positive difference but it's still never going to be a Twin Reverb. I play it in a loud Soul band so am mainly strumming chords and am happy with the bass and mids but the high end is still a bit stiff so i tried a joyo american sound pedal and now I am able to get better sounding high end and soften the high with a bit of drive, so I'm very happy now. One day I will buy an old Twin Reverb or Deluxe Reverb as that is the sound I guess I am after, but wheels are a must if gigging and the joyo or similar sansamp type pedal into clean channel with amp eq dials set flat then adjust with pedal, will give you much more usable clean channel tone imo. More what I consider "Fender like". You can also push the effects switch into middle position for a little extra bite or growl, but I prefer it off. just remember to switch impedance selector switch if you pull 2 of the tubes. Old GE 12ax7 shorts sounded best for me in this amp, even over some RCA, Mullard and various other long and short plate nos. The GE's have the softest and sweetest high end to my ears and this amp needs that. Hope all that helps, if you need a preamp tube layout I can link you. just a disclaimer, I have only ever played a Telecaster into mine, various Fender OV pickups and hot classics, so my observations are based on that. Great clean amp if you can do something about the slightly harsh and bland high end and adding just a tiny tiny bit of drive with an amp sim pedal as mentioned, sounds counterproductive to add gain to a clean channel, but in my case the amp still has headroom all day long, just a better sound on the top strings, bit more sparkle less spike.
 
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