Getting clarity from neck by tweaking amp modeling

Icarusfire

Icarusfire

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I use Les Paul, with a SD 59 neck pickup, it gets muddy and lose clarity with distortion doing sweep picking..etc.

I use roland micro br 80 amp modeling, I do experiment a lot to find the right tone but still not satisfied about clarity under fast soloing(tone is awesome and dont wanna change or lower my pickup)

Maybe you guys have any tips on how can I tweak my amp modeling to get a bit more clarity? maybe there is a magic combination that I didnt found yet?
 
Re: Getting clarity from neck by tweaking amp modeling

Rewire the neck pickup in parallel. That will increase the clarity. You can also try raising the screws on the treble side.

There are very few magic combinations if you're trying to balance the neck and bridge at the amp.
 
Re: Getting clarity from neck by tweaking amp modeling

Many Les Pauls are too boomy on the neck pickup, and the '59 is the most boomy pickup. If you want to keep it because you like it in other situations some things can help.

There is Artie's de-mud mod that you can try (small passive circuit).

Another fix is to have a real EQ (not a tube preamp bass/mid/treble thing, something like a Boss EQ-7) and kill the bass before it hits the clipping stage.

Both modelers and tube amps typically don't allow a plain re-equalization that is completely before the first clipping stage. A GE-7 is handy to have in all kinds of situations.
 
Re: Getting clarity from neck by tweaking amp modeling

thanks great tips, but can I use Boss EQ infront of my micro br 80 modeling amp? I read that it should be used "after" distortion OR in an effects loop. Which I dont have both. Still can help my case?

And out of curiosity, why an external EQ is needed and the EQ of the boss amp modeler is not enough? can I first try tweaking there maybe?
 
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Re: Getting clarity from neck by tweaking amp modeling

Icarusfire said:
I use Les Paul, with a SD 59 neck pickup, it gets muddy and lose clarity with distortion doing sweep picking..etc.

I use roland micro br 80 amp modeling, I do experiment a lot to find the right tone but still not satisfied about clarity under fast soloing(tone is awesome and dont wanna change or lower my pickup)

Maybe you guys have any tips on how can I tweak my amp modeling to get a bit more clarity? maybe there is a magic combination that I didnt found yet?
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try cutting a few db between 200 and 400hz with EQ
 
Re: Getting clarity from neck by tweaking amp modeling

Icarusfire said:
thanks great tips, but can I use Boss EQ infront of my micro br 80 modeling amp? I read that it should be used "after" distortion OR in an effects loop. Which I dont have both. Still can help my case?

And out of curiosity, why an external EQ is needed and the EQ of the boss amp modeler is not enough? can I first try tweaking there maybe?
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We don't know where the EQ sits in the modeler.

In tune amps there is no real separate EQ, the EQ sits basically in the middle of the first clipping stage and you have very little control.

If you have the pedal you can of course try it before and after the modeler and in the effects loop.

In most cases EQ are after the clipping stage because that's where they have more effect but your problem is a boomy guitar, that's why we figured before might be more effective.
 
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