Gibson ES-335 for $1200-something ! (...new...)

Re: Gibson ES-335 for $1200-something ! (...new...)

I have a stigma that I won't pay over $1K for a Studio version of anything. If it had a full 2 volume/2 tone stack and a Bigsby, maybe I'd consider that one.
 
Re: Gibson ES-335 for $1200-something ! (...new...)

I have a stigma that I won't pay over $1K for a Studio version of anything. If it had a full 2 volume/2 tone stack and a Bigsby, maybe I'd consider that one.



OK, fair enough, but then you will never own an ES-335 :(
Unless you wait long enough for them to pop up on the 2nd hand market for under 1K.

Same can be said about a Standard then.

If you don't want to pay over 2K for a Std-anything . . .

. . . again you will have to wait, and hope a Std pops up for under 2K on the used market.
 
Re: Gibson ES-335 for $1200-something ! (...new...)

That's a decent, but not amazing, price on those. If you like the looks of the Studio models, I would probably go for it. For my money, I would probably grab a used ES-333 for about the same cash, as it cuts corners in ways that bug me less than the Studio.
 
Re: Gibson ES-335 for $1200-something ! (...new...)

Not having all 4 knobs bugs me. I agree to wait for a deal on a used one.
 
Re: Gibson ES-335 for $1200-something ! (...new...)

by not having independent volume and tone controls for each pup you lose a lot of great tones
 
Re: Gibson ES-335 for $1200-something ! (...new...)

Not having all 4 knobs bugs me. I agree to wait for a deal on a used one.


And that probably saved Gibson $10 in parts and labor. Just like they make so many of their HB's with a single lead, a move that saves them how many cents?
 
Re: Gibson ES-335 for $1200-something ! (...new...)

I don't really have anything against this guitar, though the lack of dual controls would bother me. But hey--a lot of guys out there play guitars with just a single volume knob, so...to each his own.

I can see the appeal--especially at the "open box" price, but it's not something I would buy myself. I'm more of a traditionalist, I like the standard version of the 335 with the bound neck and full-gloss body. These are great guitars; so usable for so many types of music. I seem to be playing my 335s a lot more these days than my Les Pauls.

I think Gibson does great work on their "bread and butter" guitars, less so on many of their "budget" models. If I were looking in this price range, I would consider one of the upper end Ibanez semi-hollows; the Eastmans, and the D'Angelicos. I sometimes see used Heritage 535s in this price range, and they are about as Gibson as you can get, without it being a Gibson-labelled guitar. In my area used 335s go for around $2K, with the satin and 333 models around $1200-1500.

If you can do with something other than the 335 shape, there are semi-hollows all over the marketplace; from G&L's ASAT and Legacy semis, PRS SEs, Hamer Artists and Echotones, Gretsch, Rics, Hagstrom,...even the Epi Sheraton, Riviera and Casinos; and many, many others. I think with this Gibson Studio 335, if you've looked at the other options and done your homework, and you like the aesthetics of the Studio and the rest of the guitar works for you (neck, pickups controls, etc.)...heck, why not?

One other thing. I for one, am not opposed to buying a Gibson guitar with a broken headstock. I own three of the them and bought them for pennies on the dollars, including my two Les Paul Supremes and my 2012 Vintage Sunburst Flame Top 335. (And this 335 might be the best of the three 335s I own!) It depends of course, on the price, and maybe most importantly--the break and the quality of the repair. The key is getting one where, a) The neck wasn't shattered into several pieces; and b) The break should not have gone through or damaged the headstock faceplate. (Look for finish creases.) In the case of faceplate damage, it's fine if it was repaired properly with a new faceplate and refinished, but if it is still visible, it was probably a shoddy repair job done on the cheap...not what I'm looking for. Mine were all "good breaks" and professionally repaired and refinished, with no tuning, intonation, or stability issues. Mine are all beautiful guitars, bought at rock-bottom prices--a total win-win. They probably will never be high value, vintage collectibles because most guys will pass them up, but for me they have become great working guitars and a pleasure to own. So if you run across one, don't automatically run away. Examine it carefully, and bargain hard if it is something you really want. It's a buyers' market for these guitars, and if you're careful (and a little bit lucky!) you can get a great guitar for a great price.

Good luck!

Bill
 
Re: Gibson ES-335 for $1200-something ! (...new...)

Looks cheap and I'm sorry, but that would drive me nuts.

Bonus: ABR-1.
 
Re: Gibson ES-335 for $1200-something ! (...new...)

Thanks to everyone so far, and also thank you very much Bill.

Bill, you mentioned many other brands that make either a 335 shape guitar, or just a semi.
Any opinion on the Tokai versions of the all mighty 335 ?

Can we compare the (say for example) the ES-155 from Tokai to any of the current production Gibbo's ?
 
Re: Gibson ES-335 for $1200-something ! (...new...)

Thank you for the compliments: I hope it helps.

While I have my Gibson 335s, I also have a couple of clones. My MIK Ibanez Artstar AS-120TR is simply one of the best made guitars I own. I love the Gibson-style '60s Slim Taper neck and the Super '58s are terrific vintage-voiced pickups. Doesn't have the cachet of the Gibsons, and you can see where Ibanez cut some corners in the construction, but it is a terrific guitar. The late '70s Hondo 935 clone I have was MIJ, and actually an expensive-for-its-time, off-shore guitar. Fabulous neck and again, just great sounding PAFs. I need new pots and a jack in this one so it hasn't been played for a while, but I'd rather hang onto it than sell it for nothing.

I have not seen any of these, but Tokai is known for producing some of the best vintage-style LPs made. I only found them on some sites from OZ, and they didn't seem cheap. For myself, I like the Gibson guitars I have, but then I'm a guitar snob, LOL!

However, I suspect that if I had one of these Tokai clones to examine in hand, it might possibly introduce some serious G.A.S. They do look nice.

Bill
 
Re: Gibson ES-335 for $1200-something ! (...new...)

Thank you for the compliments: I hope it helps.

While I have my Gibson 335s, I also have a couple of clones. My MIK Ibanez Artstar AS-120TR is simply one of the best made guitars I own. I love the Gibson-style '60s Slim Taper neck and the Super '58s are terrific vintage-voiced pickups. Doesn't have the cachet of the Gibsons, and you can see where Ibanez cut some corners in the construction, but it is a terrific guitar. The late '70s Hondo 935 clone I have was MIJ, and actually an expensive-for-its-time, off-shore guitar. Fabulous neck and again, just great sounding PAFs. I need new pots and a jack in this one so it hasn't been played for a while, but I'd rather hang onto it than sell it for nothing.

I have not seen any of these, but Tokai is known for producing some of the best vintage-style LPs made.
I only found them on some sites from OZ, and they didn't seem cheap.
For myself, I like the Gibson guitars I have, but then I'm a guitar snob, LOL!

However, I suspect that if I had one of these Tokai clones to examine in hand, it might possibly introduce some serious G.A.S. They do look nice.

Bill


Thank you (yet again) Bill.

I manage to find this clip, of a 155.




No video/demo can give you the sense of how a guitar must feel, but this does not look too bad.
(then again, all his vids make the guitars look/sound good)


As far as i know, Tokai is currently producing the following models.


Vintage Series : (MIJ)

ES-135
ES-155
ES-160

Premium Series : (MIJ)

ES-185


Price wise . . . i have no idea.
 
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