Gibson flying V... bets PU for rock/classic/hard

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Hi I just got a new cheery red nitro 67 reissue V , not really bonding with the 500 t in the bridge, anyone modded these or have a sugestion for the sound Im after..... Im so used to LP's and SGs, these PU's are muddy to me...
 
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Hello. I have never considered the 500t to be muddy. Vague? Maybe. Not muddy.

What sort of amp are you using? How have you adjusted your polepice screws? What sound are you after?
 
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Just adjusted the pole piece screws ...it sounds a little better....
 
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I used to find the same problem with a Gibson Dirty Fingers humbucker. Squashed dynamics and not enough high frequency detail.

The obvious candidate is the Duncan SH4 JB. My personal favourite is the Custom. For less output, consider the Screamin' Demon.
 
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Was thinkin the custom 5 , had one in an Ibanez sz a while ago and its rocked...... the only thing I ddnt like about it was a bit mid scooped , and I got lost in the mix with the leads on 2 guitars unless I really cranked the boost and blew people backwards...lol
 
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I would try a 59..... Some suggested a dirty fingers. I had an explorer with those. It sounded great on gain, but the cleans were a little dead. I have no experience with a Custom 5 but what people say about them here... might be the ticket as well.... But I stick to my first choice of a 59 set for b & n.


Hi I just got a new cheery red nitro 67 reissue V , not really bonding with the 500 t in the bridge, anyone modded these or have a sugestion for the sound Im after..... Im so used to LP's and SGs, these PU's are muddy to me...
 
Re: Gibson flying V... bets PU for rock/classic/hard

Was thinkin the custom 5 , had one in an Ibanez sz a while ago and its rocked...... the only thing I ddnt like about it was a bit mid scooped , and I got lost in the mix with the leads on 2 guitars unless I really cranked the boost and blew people backwards...lol

The C5 is a good choice. Yes, it's scooped a bit, but you can easily change that by using a couple 250K pots (takes off some treble & makes the mids more prominent), or putting in an A8 magnet, which makes the popular "C8" PU. I think a C5 or C8 will make you a happy boy.

On my V, I wired the tone pot to the bridge PU only, so I have two 250K pots on the bridge (volume & tone) for warmth, and one 500K pot on the neck for brightness. Works great.
 
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Michael Schenker had the Custom / '59 combo in his Vs for many years I believe, though back in the 70s I think he had the original Gibson pups (best Duncan equivalent for that would be '59 / '59).
 
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I loved Schenker's neck pup lead tone from the MSG days. He had some good tones with UFO too. Very Musical. Those V's were wrecks before they got sold. I don't think he is getting the same tone with the Dean's, but MF does sell a signature Schenker Pup or they did last time I checked. They were getting decent reviews..... but those reviews tend to be very subjective.


Michael Schenker had the Custom / '59 combo in his Vs for many years I believe, though back in the 70s I think he had the original Gibson pups (best Duncan equivalent for that would be '59 / '59).
 
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the only thing I ddnt like about it was a bit mid scooped

Well the V is mahogany right? There's a lot of midrange in that guitar. Thats why a lot of people use A5's in Les Pauls, to even out the frequencies more and tighten it up. The lack of mids will make it less muddy overall which is the problem you are running into. It's better to add mids through your amp or else you'll just be naturally muddy with a pickup that has a bunch of midrange installed in a guitar with a lot of midrange, even if its a ceramic.
 
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+1 I think that is the reason I had success with the 59's in my Les Paul's going into Mark IV which is also adding a lot of mid range.

Well the V is mahogany right? There's a lot of midrange in that guitar. Thats why a lot of people use A5's in Les Pauls, to even out the frequencies more and tighten it up. The lack of mids will make it less muddy overall which is the problem you are running into. It's better to add mids through your amp or else you'll just be naturally muddy with a pickup that has a bunch of midrange installed in a guitar with a lot of midrange, even if its a ceramic.
 
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Great suggestions , anyone tried the dimarzio super distortion ?
 
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Never in a V but I have had my share of Les Paul's loaded with them and they sound good. A little too hot for my taste but back then...... 11 was my favorite number.

Great suggestions , anyone tried the dimarzio super distortion ?
 
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Custom/Pearly Gates here, I get my Schenker on with this one!!

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I have a Faded V with the same ceramic pickups. I didn't really like the sound with my amp at first, but I warmed up to them in time. Now I wouldn't change them for anything. They're very old-school metal to me. Early Metallica, Megadeth, Priest. I love it. (Amp is a JCM2000 TSL100/1960A).

+1

dude the 500t rocks.

maybe you need to set up your guitar?

polepieces included!
 
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I have a epi v, loaded with a custom 5 and a 59b (in the neck), wired with cts, orange drop, and switchcraft, and master vol/tone, and a spin a split mod on the bridge. Rocks!
 
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