Gibson Flying v pickup suggestions.

[T-800]

Although I've been doing some reading, Im somewhat of a noob at this stuff...so I may request clarification from any replies people give me

I've got the following flying v with the stock dual dirty fingers plus pickups.

http://legacy.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/2019/USA/Flying-V-B-2-2019.aspx

I haven't made up my mind but I was thinking about changing out the pickups for some other passive humbuckers.

My favourite bands are faith no more, rammstein and deftones.

I have a guitar with a jb in the bridge. I am thinking of getting a guitar that comes with emgs.

I wanna be able to do faith no more covers but I also want to be able to so stuff like the theme song to the original Beverly hills 90210, 80s inspired stuff like that.

So far, for the bridge, I am thinking of getting the duncan distortion. I'm assuming chords are "tight", notes in chords are well defined even under high gain. Am I getting a correct impression of the duncan distortion? Should I get the trembucker version if I want to attach a floyd frx?

For the neck...I want something fat, with lots of hiss and sizzle and juice. I'd prefer to keep it in a humbucker format, humbucker sized single coils are fine

Something like the solo in this song

https://youtu.be/u7oW2eiAM-g

I'm not necessarily opposed to other pickup brands but Seymour Duncan and EMG are the brands I've listened to and read the most about.

 

[uOpt]

DD pair sound right here.

I don't bother with trembuckers.

 

[jeremy]

what dont you like about the dirty fingers?

 

[T-800]

DD pair sound right here.

I don't bother with trembuckers.

I'm a noob, so can you please explain to me why you don't bother with trembuckers (assuming you mean even if you're using a tremolo)

Also by pair, did you mean the dual distortion mayhem set I've read about? Both a neck and bridge distortion?

I want my neck pickup to have hiss and sizzle, I don't want it to be smooth even on high gain. I want the hiss and sizzle and sustain to be like dipping a paint brush in paint and just slapping it on a canvas without letting the excess paint drip off

 

[T-800]

what dont you like about the dirty fingers?

To be perfectly honest I have not even tried them out enough to form an opinion, I was just throwing it out there to get people's thoughts and suggestions. I may end up sticking with them.

 

[jeremy]

neck pups tend to be smoother sounding due to the position of the pup, something that is bright thin and toothy in the bridge will sound much warmer in the neck. if i was going for a neck pup with sizzle, id get a screamin demon and put a ceramic mag in

 

[uOpt]

I'm a noob, so can you please explain to me why you don't bother with trembuckers (assuming you mean even if you're using a tremolo)

Also by pair, did you mean the dual distortion mayhem set I've read about? Both a neck and bridge distortion?

I want my neck pickup to have hiss and sizzle, I don't want it to be smooth even on high gain. I want the hiss and sizzle and sustain to be like dipping a paint brush in paint and just slapping it on a canvas without letting the excess paint drip off

Yes, I meant both neck and bridge from the DD mayhem set. Although Jeremy has a point that the sizzle is maybe better served by a screamin' demon. It has been a while since I used a DD neck. You might like the hex polepieces.

The trembucker, yes I use regular pickups with Fender spacing bridges. I don't want the randomization from the different pickup coil dimensions in the trembucker. The magnetic field of the narrow regular humbucker is wide enough to cover the wider string spacing, or in other words I consider this a cosmetic issue only.

 

[Aceman]

First comment: That guitar is PERFECT as is!!!!! What you want for the neck - IS a Dirty Fingers. As for the Bridge - listen to Whitesnake's 1987 album. That is all Sykes playing Dirty Fingers.

Second: Live with those pickups for a bit before you go a changing. 2 weeks to 2 months and really work with the amp to see what they can do. for what you said - I'd have no problem with those. Work the volume control on the guitar, and be sure to really adjust the pickups and poles. Experiment with pickup height and pole height.

By the way - What amp and FX?

Third: As asked, what is it the DF's don't do for you?

Four: Consider keeping the pickups but getting a push / pull switch for parallel. Are DF's 4 wire? I don't recall...

 

[Mincer]

I say a Jazz and a Custom, and if you are gonna have a trem, get the Trembucker.

 

[Aceman]

Get another V for a different pickup set. Leave that one alone!!!!

I'll give you 850 for it....right now.

 

[T-800]

You know it's funny some of you mentioned leaving the neck alone because I was thinking "wait a minute...from what I've heard from the dirty fingers plus, maybe I should leave the neck and just change the bridge..."

 

[T-800]

neck pups tend to be smoother sounding due to the position of the pup, something that is bright thin and toothy in the bridge will sound much warmer in the neck. if i was going for a neck pup with sizzle, id get a screamin demon and put a ceramic mag in

First of all thanks for your help and insight, I'm thinking that if I'm going to change things around, based on what I was thinking about and what other people in here confurmed, I'll leave the neck alone since it occurred to me that it may be fine for what I want

 

[T-800]

Yes, I meant both neck and bridge from the DD mayhem set. Although Jeremy has a point that the sizzle is maybe better served by a screamin' demon. It has been a while since I used a DD neck. You might like the hex polepieces.

The trembucker, yes I use regular pickups with Fender spacing bridges. I don't want the randomization from the different pickup coil dimensions in the trembucker. The magnetic field of the narrow regular humbucker is wide enough to cover the wider string spacing, or in other words I consider this a cosmetic issue only.

Thanks for your detailed response.

Once again, Im a noob so please bear with my requests for clarification

These fender spacing bridges that you speak of...will I need something similar if I'm going to use a "regular" bridge pickup instead of a trembucker? What if I just use the regular bridge and then install a Floyd Rose FRX, will it give me issues?

Btw, the tremolo I'm looking at getting is a Floyd Rose FRX. Simply because it doesn't require any permanent mods, I don't wish to permanently modify this guitar in anyway (unless you also install the locknut, which I'm not going to because apparently having locking tuners removes the necessity for a locknut and is not a permanent mod, unlike the locknut which has two screws...feel free to comment on this too btw)

 

[T-800]

First comment: That guitar is PERFECT as is!!!!! What you want for the neck - IS a Dirty Fingers. As for the Bridge - listen to Whitesnake's 1987 album. That is all Sykes playing Dirty Fingers.

Second: Live with those pickups for a bit before you go a changing. 2 weeks to 2 months and really work with the amp to see what they can do. for what you said - I'd have no problem with those. Work the volume control on the guitar, and be sure to really adjust the pickups and poles. Experiment with pickup height and pole height.

By the way - What amp and FX?

Third: As asked, what is it the DF's don't do for you?

Four: Consider keeping the pickups but getting a push / pull switch for parallel. Are DF's 4 wire? I don't recall...

Thanks for your encouragement, like I said, I was doing some grocery shopping and it occurred to me "wait a minute...those demos of the dirty fingers plus that I've heard had the sizzle and hiss that I want for my neck pickup, maybe I should leave it."

For the bridge, I don't want hiss and sizzle, I wan't complete absence of muddiness, clearly defined notes even when playing high gain and with full chords.

My understanding is that what I want is a duncan distortion. Someone else has said what I want is a custom? Interesting...

Also, simply going by the name, I didn't think a pickup called jazz would have lots of hiss and sizzle...or am I wrong?

 

[T-800]

Get another V for a different pickup set. Leave that one alone!!!!

I'll give you 850 for it....right now.

Man...I wish I had the money lol

If I did I'd just say fuck it and wait for that new Adam Jones V that's supposed to be coming out, wouldn't have to change anything except maybe somehow fit a tremolo on there and maybe locking tuners

 

[T-800]

First comment: That guitar is PERFECT as is!!!!! What you want for the neck - IS a Dirty Fingers. As for the Bridge - listen to Whitesnake's 1987 album. That is all Sykes playing Dirty Fingers.

Second: Live with those pickups for a bit before you go a changing. 2 weeks to 2 months and really work with the amp to see what they can do. for what you said - I'd have no problem with those. Work the volume control on the guitar, and be sure to really adjust the pickups and poles. Experiment with pickup height and pole height.

By the way - What amp and FX?

Third: As asked, what is it the DF's don't do for you?

Four: Consider keeping the pickups but getting a push / pull switch for parallel. Are DF's 4 wire? I don't recall...

Sorry forgot to mention my amp, I have a fender superchamp x2 in wine red with a celestion speaker.

I also have a Marshall slash sl-5c amp but I'm considering getting rid of that. I bought it just for guns n roses slash stuff but my other amp is supposed to be quite versatile, so I think I might just get rid of it/trade for something

 

[T-800]

I say a Jazz and a Custom, and if you are gonna have a trem, get the Trembucker.

I didn't think a pickup called jazz would have lots of hiss and sizzle...or am I wrong? Why do you suggest I go with that, rather than

1. Screamin demon
2. Getting a distortion neck along with bridge
3. Keeping the DF plus neck

Also, why do you say custom as opposed to distortion?

BTW I've seen a lot of SD pickups with the word custom in them..."custom 5, custom custom"

Just for clarification and research purposes, what is the full/proper name of this custom bridge pickup that you recommended?

 

[uOpt]

Thanks for your detailed response.

Once again, Im a noob so please bear with my requests for clarification

These fender spacing bridges that you speak of...will I need something similar if I'm going to use a "regular" bridge pickup instead of a trembucker? What if I just use the regular bridge and then install a Floyd Rose FRX, will it give me issues?

Btw, the tremolo I'm looking at getting is a Floyd Rose FRX. Simply because it doesn't require any permanent mods, I don't wish to permanently modify this guitar in anyway (unless you also install the locknut, which I'm not going to because apparently having locking tuners removes the necessity for a locknut and is not a permanent mod, unlike the locknut which has two screws...feel free to comment on this too btw)

The spacing of a normal humbucker is actually pretty close to a trembucker and the magnetic field is not strictly limited to the area above the poles. That's why it works whether you have the trembucker or the humbucker.

I think about half of this forum ignores the issue and the other half does not.

 

[uOpt]

Just for clarification and research purposes, what is the full/proper name of this custom bridge pickup that you recommended?

The "Customs" are all variants of the same wind with different magnets. Mincer meant the "Duncan Custom", which has a ceramic magnet. Custom 5 has Alnico 5, Custom Custom has A2. C8 has A8.

 

[T-800]

The "Customs" are all variants of the same wind with different magnets. Mincer mean the "Duncan Custom", which has a ceramic magnet. Custom 5 has Alnico 5, Custom Custom has A2. C8 has A8.

Do you still feel a duncan distortion is in order for the bridge or do you agree with his custom suggestion?