Good metal pedal/amp?

[anthonyshawnr]

Hey guys I've been looking to get a new amp or effect pedal to go with my new bad ass 7 string but I'm stuck on what I should get. I have a zoom g1on and it has all the delay/reverb/chorus I could ever want or need but now Im looking for something with a really nice distortion on it. I'm willing to get anot her amp as well if it's cheap enough!
Do yall got any suggestions?

 

[czarokrates]

Re: Good metal pedal/amp?

The phenomenon of Fulltone OCD should you know my padawan.



Or copies if cheaper.

 

[anthonyshawnr]

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Hmm would I have to use another distortion/OD pedal with it to get the "balls to the wall" metal gain?

 

[dominus]

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The phenomenon of Fulltone OCD should you know my padawan.

Or copies if cheaper.

Hmm would I have to use another distortion/OD pedal with it to get the "balls to the wall" metal gain?

Yes. The OCD is basically an overdrive. A lot of people seem to not be able to define metal when they're making suggestions.

What amp are you using? I'd recommend an amp over a distortion pedal just about any time, although take a look at the AMT Legend pedals, they'll nail some decent metal tones, especially the R, P, and S ones.

 

[anthonyshawnr]

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I'm playing through a roland gx 20 right now and it has a pretty good metal sound as is but I want something different, the clean channel is amazing on the cube that's why I was asking about a pedal but if there's a quality amp with a good metal channel I'll consider it
Btw Im working with a 200$ budget max lol

 

[dominus]

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I would say *borrow* a pedal first to make sure it works properly. Some of the digital modelers will sound absolutely horrible with a distortion pedal in front of them.

 

[anthonyshawnr]

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Well its not too bad but honestly I think I might get the Vox vt20x, that dual rectifier model is killer. And it's a tube hybrid and you can even swith from class A to AB and adjust the bias of the tube. There's alot of control with that amp and I know the VT20's take pedals as if it's a real tube amp! My other options I was looking at was a Randall Diavlo or a Boss ME25. The market is so flooded with **** products I wanna make sure I get it right this time lol

 

[SirJackdeFuzz]

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Yes. The OCD is basically an overdrive.

A lot of people seem to not be able to define metal when they're making suggestions.

What amp are you using? I'd recommend an amp over a distortion pedal just about any time, although take a look at the AMT Legend pedals, they'll nail some decent metal tones, especially the R, P, and S ones.

I'll 2nd the amp over a pedal.

On the 'cheap', i would deff look into the Dime series of amps.

http://www.amazon.com/Dime-Amplification-D100-HEAD-Black/dp/B003HHAPB2 - $440.00 new, even cheaper used.

Also, do not overlook the Randal units, like the RG 50TC (all tube)

Basically comes down to how much you want to spend on an amp.

 

[SirJackdeFuzz]

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I'm playing through a roland gx 20 right now and it has a pretty good metal sound as is but I want something different, the clean channel is amazing on the cube that's why I was asking about a pedal but if there's a quality amp with a good metal channel I'll consider it
Btw Im working with a 200$ budget max lol

MMmmm, $200.00 . . . look into a used (but trusty) Peavey Bandit.

There is a reason many guys start with this amp to get their heavy tones.

 

[anthonyshawnr]

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There's bandits all over this town used for right around 125, pretry much every peavey transtube models are in the pawn shops down here lol I guess I'm gonna have to go pawnshop hopping this morning lol

Also I only really play at bedroom volumes, so there's really no need for a 50 or 100 watt amp imo. Especially if it's a full tube

 

[anthonyshawnr]

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Are the AMT legend pedals really that good to spend 160$ on a single pedal? Yall have pretty much talked me into buying an amp, and unfortunately they sold out of all the Randall diavlo 1watt combos and the 5watt is about to be sold out too. Idk what would be better a cheap tube combo amp with just one awesome/legendary gain channel, or a Vox with upto 4 high gain models?

 

[Empty Pockets]

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Orange Micro Dark.

 

[Shooter.556]

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I find for real metal tones getting your gain from the amp is the only way to go.
I have never really played a "metal" pedal that truly got it there..

 

[dominus]

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There's bandits all over this town used for right around 125, pretry much every peavey transtube models are in the pawn shops down here lol I guess I'm gonna have to go pawnshop hopping this morning lol

Also I only really play at bedroom volumes, so there's really no need for a 50 or 100 watt amp imo. Especially if it's a full tube

No real reason to go full tube either. There's plenty of good solid state amps out there, played by a number of professionals.

Randall RG75s will do metal pretty well too, and are overlooked.

With large solid state amps you can always play at lower volumes but they'll hit the levels of distortion you're looking for, and the speakers will sound better. 8 inch and 10 inch speakers will *rarely* sound good.

 

[anthonyshawnr]

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Hmm I've been looking at small wattage full tube and ss combos just for the fact that you can get a good sounding distortion at low volumes. I've personally never had any problems with smaller amps but then again I've only played less than a handful of em lol I used to have a Vox VT20 that was pretty good for a small combo. Also this roland is pretty decent but it just feels like it's lacking something distortion wise, that's why I was asking about pedals but I'm pretty sure I'm just gonna go with a new amp. And out of all the suggestions which one would have enough gain for say a Far Beyond Driven type distortion?

 

[Mincer]

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The Dirty Deed pedal can go from hard rock to metal very well. It is great on its own, or pushing an already distorted amp.

 

[dominus]

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Hmm I've been looking at small wattage full tube and ss combos just for the fact that you can get a good sounding distortion at low volumes. I've personally never had any problems with smaller amps but then again I've only played less than a handful of em lol I used to have a Vox VT20 that was pretty good for a small combo. Also this roland is pretty decent but it just feels like it's lacking something distortion wise, that's why I was asking about pedals but I'm pretty sure I'm just gonna go with a new amp. And out of all the suggestions which one would have enough gain for say a Far Beyond Driven type distortion?

Dimebag played Randall amps. Like I said, Randall RG75.

The Dirty Deed pedal can go from hard rock to metal very well. It is great on its own, or pushing an already distorted amp.

 

[Shooter.556]

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No real reason to go full tube either. There's plenty of good solid state amps out there, played by a number of professionals.

Randall RG75s will do metal pretty well too, and are overlooked.

With large solid state amps you can always play at lower volumes but they'll hit the levels of distortion you're looking for, and the speakers will sound better. 8 inch and 10 inch speakers will *rarely* sound good.

I gigged in a metal band with an RG200 and a Randall 4x12. I paid $450 for it on Ebay and drove and picked it up..
That amp was instant Crowbar and Pantera tones..

 

[ehdwuld]

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The Digitech Deathmetal pedal has one good sound

But it's the one you want

$20 used at GC everyday

 

[Liko]

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Hey guys I've been looking to get a new amp or effect pedal to go with my new bad ass 7 string but I'm stuck on what I should get. I have a zoom g1on and it has all the delay/reverb/chorus I could ever want or need but now Im looking for something with a really nice distortion on it. I'm willing to get anot her amp as well if it's cheap enough!
Do yall got any suggestions?

What genre/generation of metal? For '70s-'80s classic metal, the Hardwire Valve Distortion does some wonderful things. It has a "Crunch" setting for early hard rock/metal "more than overdrive" sounds (think "Back in Black"), and a "Saturated" setting for more modern high-gain scooped dirt (it's easily capable of Drowning Pool), and with a good compressor in front of it and a good reverb behind it'll give you some excellent EVH/Satch stuff. I find that with PAF-type humbuckers it stops just short of the ultra-dirty prog/death/hardcore metal sound, but as I don't do a lot of that kind of music I don't have any guitars loaded with anything higher-output to push the boundaries.