Good phaser for humbucker axe???

[sooperunkn]

I'm looking to incorporate a phaser pedal into my setup: Les Paul Custom->Fulltone Clyde Deluxe Wah->Phaser->Boogie Dual Rect. I played the MXR 90 with a strat through a boogie and I absolutely fell in love with it!!! Then I read the Harmony Central reviews and a large number of the humbucker users said it sounded like ass. All of the great reviews came from single coil dudes. So... is it as bad as they say with HBs?? If so, is there a recommended Phaser for use with humbuckers?

By the way... I'm a lefty and this shop had no lefty HB guitars so I had to use the Strat. And it's not a convenient place to go back to with my axe.

Any help would be :cool3:

 

[mrid]

Re: Good phaser for humbucker axe???

The Phase 90 needs a few simple mods to sound its best.

1) Removing the Pre and De-emphasis will result in a slightly higher noise
floor while raising the headroom at 1.3Khz +3dB and 7.2Khz +12dB. Procedure:
Remove C11 (.01MF) and C12 (680PF).
2) Removing the feedback around the Phaser circuit will diminish
regeneration. This will result in a mellower effect, reduce the midrange
frequency response, and sound more like the earlier SCRIPT MXR Phase 90s.
Procedure: Remove R28 (24K).
3) For lowering the overall effect output change R7 from 150K to a 100K
or -3dB reduction, R7 150K to a for -2dB reduction. This modification
should only be done in conjunction with modification #1.


Modifications #1 and #2 can be done separately or together.

 

[Kent S.]

Re: Good phaser for humbucker axe???

And now, for the visual portion of our show ... :laugh2:

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

Re: Good phaser for humbucker axe???

Hehe yeah plus it would be adviseable to put the phaser before the overdrive.
If the amp does the job, use it in the front and with pedals before.
Or you will get some very funny shrill notes from time to time in the sweep.
:burnout:

 

[Kent S.]

Re: Good phaser for humbucker axe???

Hehe yeah plus it would be adviseable to put the phaser before the overdrive.
If the amp does the job, use it in the front and with pedals before.
Or you will get some very funny shrill notes from time to time in the sweep.
:burnout:

Ordinarily you wouldn't put most modulation effects before overdrive, but since phasers have so much in common with filters anyway (well they are when you think about it) it kinda makes sense to do it here. Although a phaser can sound good after, the increased harmonics makes the phaser turn into MONGO-PHASER ... kinda cool, but a bit distracting.Listen to something like a twelve stage phaser after distortion, and it is positively mind twisting ... :laugh2:

 

[Wattage]

Re: Good phaser for humbucker axe???

StratDeluxer97 cleaned up and tweaked an MIJ Boss BF-2 for me and now it is the bomb!

 

[sooperunkn]

Re: Good phaser for humbucker axe???

Thanks guys! I'm gald to hear the Phase 90 is mod'able. Does anyone know if StratDeluxer mods these pedals? I'd love to give the business to a fellow lefty!!!

 

[Wattage]

Re: Good phaser for humbucker axe???

I would guess he does but IM him to be certain.

John is great to deal with.

 

[Hawkman]

Re: Good phaser for humbucker axe???

Or, you could just by my Sobbat Phase II pedal from me. It surpasses the Phase 90 imho. I'm probably going to put it up on Ebay later today.

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

Re: Good phaser for humbucker axe???

I'm making a clone of a Phase90, have just been a little too busy working to get any further with it, but I normally uses our own Two Faze, two in one phaser, simple like a mxr, this baby is silent, plus there are trimmers on the inside, so you can adjust the wave for more swooshing.
But phasers are quite different, the 90 sounds great for that old VH sound, just put it on the slowest setting, and the sound is just there with some British amplification.