Grover tuners tighten all the way?

[blakejcan]

I picked up a 2017 SG a while back. It had Klusons on it and I am putting Grovers back on it. It originally came with Grovers.

I feel like I am doing something ridiculous but when I screw the front and back together.........on ONLY the right side of the headstock......I can't get any of them to be flush with the headstock. They get close still have a 1-2 mm gap and this makes them loose.

Any ideas on what's happening here? Thanks!

 

[Mincer]

Are they the correct bushings?

 

[beaubrummels]

Half import Grovers on an American guitar, or vice-versa?

 

[ICTGoober]

What's the thickness of the peghead, Blake?

 

[blakejcan]

Normal Grovers on a standard USA SG. You can see the original grover outlines on the back of the peghead so I know it should work.

I'm wondering if the holes got reamed out a bit when he put the other tuners on? I don't know. Still doesn't make sense than half of them work and half don't.

 

[blakejcan]

these guys

https://www.allparts.com/products/t...3&_ss=r&_fid=02a413045&variant=18579891028025

 

[blakejcan]

Looks like they originally came w/ the locking ones but that shouldn't make a difference?

 

[blakejcan]

Hole in headstock is about .4 "

bushing width is about .38"

it's plenty snug enough.

headstock depth is .56" on both sides so that's within spec

I just can't get the top & bottom parts to screw down far enough to sit flush. And all on the one side. Super bizarre.

 

[beaubrummels]

The locking collar is 0.394", the non-locking is 0.374" in the schematics. Possibly half the bushings are for the locking type, expecting a taller collar?

 

[blakejcan]

the grovers I got are non-locking and fresh out of the box so shouldn't be a mismatch?

I think I just need to go for the locking and back to original specs and call it a day?

 

[beaubrummels]

Even Grover can mess up packaging. Measuring each part and checking it against the schematic would be the only way to know for sure.

 

[ICTGoober]

^^^ PREACH! ^^^

 

[solspirit]

Did they send you 3+3 or 6 inline?

 

[blakejcan]

it's a 3x3.

It has to be something simple. I feel like there is just a little something keeping me from getting them like 2 more rotations down and where we need them to be

 

[beaubrummels]

Quick test might be swap one bushing from one side to the other. If it has the same problem, then it's possibly an issue with the guitar itself.

 

[blakejcan]

Fixed!

Took the top of the tuners and did a little grinding so they'd fit a bit closer. All good now!

Hope this helps someone else down the road

 

[Mincer]

That's just weird that they didn't work right away. How far off were they?

 

[blakejcan]

1-2 millimeters? Super bizarre is right. Oh well!