guitar scratches

bluesfloyd

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hi guys,
how do you guys get scratches out of your guitar, what do you find works the best for you guys,

all the best, bluesfloyd,
 
Re: guitar scratches

In all honesty... I dont... I clean my guitar... but as far as scratches go... I feel they are earned and add character.
 
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I agree 100% with Edgecrusher. All my guns and guitars keep their scratches, they have more character and soul that way.
 
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What you can do will depend on the type of finish and how deep the scratch is. I think you stand a larger risk of further damage to the instrument trying to fix it yourself. If it were a valuable instrument and it were me I would at least consult with an experienced luthier, or just hire them to do the work with some agreement of liability/accountability. To date I have not made any attempt to repair any scratches or dings in my own instruments, no matter how valuable, due to the risk. I just do my best to take care of them and protect them so things don't get worse.
 
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I'd like to know what the guitar is...

Fine scratches can be polished out, but if it's a deep scratch that's indented into the wood, it's probably permanent. Sometimes though, an indentation can be steamed out, or filled with lacquer or super glue to make it smooth. See a competent luthier.

The best product I've used for fine scratches is the Virtuoso Guitar Cleaner. Be careful though...if you rub too vigorously while it's wet, the fine pumice can go right through a lacquer (NCL) finish. Many vintage guitars used lacquer; Martin, Gibson, and some models of Fender still do. Taylor, G&L, Collings, and almost all import brands do poly finishes, which are tougher and more durable.

I've used the Virtuoso Cleaner on some of my used G&L guitars (poly) that were a little "rough" when I bought them, and the Virtuoso Cleaner has made them look as good as new. A Les Paul Elegant (NCL) I bought a few years ago was pretty sad when the owner showed it to me; I don't think he ever, ever cleaned it. He had it listed for MONTHS, with no takers--I talked him down $600 from his original asking price. I gave it a good bath, haircut and a new suit--and now it looks like a brand new guitar. A month after I bought it, a guy offered me $200 MORE that the previous owner's original asking price. He didn't believe it was the same guitar he'd looked at months ago and rejected. I didn't sell, btw--it is one of my favorite guitars.

The Virtuoso is also excellent for treating sticky necks. On my Gibsons, I apply a coat of the cleaner to the neck and then I let it sit for15-20 minutes. Polish it off and apply a second coat, and apply the Virtuoso Guitar Polish. No more stickiness, and they have stayed that way.

And on my Gibson Les Pauls and Martin dreadnoughts, the area of the body where my arm crosses often gets oxidized. A little of the Cleaner will make that area shine again. I follow it with the Polish to help protect it. And then, I will follow that with an application of carnauba wax--Planet Waves, Dunlop 65, or Gerlitz. I prefer to use the Gerlitz on the poly-finished guitars, and the Dunlop/PW on the NCL guitars--don't ask me why I do it this way, lol! But carnauba wax gets a great shine, and that thin layer of wax goes a long way to protect the finish.

Over time, the pickguards on my Martin's can show a lot of fine scratches. I recently just gave my Martin D-18 GE a spiff up and used the Planet Waves Cleaner to remove some fine scratches, and then attacked the pickguard. A little bit of elbow grease, and that pickguard looks like new. The PW Cleaner and the Virtuoso are comparable; at this point I would give the nod to the Virtuoso because of the many successes; I have only used the PW a few times.

So I really like to take good care of my instruments. I hate a dirty guitar. I can hear my Dad whispering in my ear that my hand tools should be kept clean, dry, rust free and well-lubricated. And stored properly! That advice has stayed with me all these years. These are my tools; this is how I pay my rent. And I'm going to want to maximize my profit when I sell the instrument. Simple maintenance is the way to do that.

I hope this helps; let me know if you need any more info.

Bill
 
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Get rid of a scratch? I feel that time is better spent playing what's left of my guitar. :D
 
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What kind of scratches on what finish?
PC
hi,
i take good care of my guitars, but played the other day wearing a belt with a buckle, and its scratch the back of the body of my guitar, it looks like only the lacquers is scratched, the guitar spec says that the body is Urethane, it a strat with a paint finish, so what do you think??????

all the best, bluesfloyd,
 
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Re: guitar scratches

hi guys,
how do you guys get scratches out of your guitar, what do you find works the best for you guys,

all the best, bluesfloyd,



I've done this basic method dozens of times


this works for deeper scratches the same way it works for dents.

The changes I've made from what this video suggests is to

- generally ditch the razor blade, one little slip and you cut through the super glue and into the actual finish and then you've made things worse, but some times the situation calls for the razor blade approach.

- get hard-backed micromesh pads from grits 1500 to 12000 and use those to make the super glue flat and smooth instead of the razor blade + sand paper.

step 1) mask the dent/scratch with masking tape, leaving about 1cm clearance between the tape and the damage, and have the edge of tape that's facing the damage folded over, so that it's not sticking directly to the finish along that edge (I'll explain why)

step 2) apply the glue to the scratch, ideally get it as flat as possible, that's why you get "super thin", so it won't form such a tall mound of glue. Consider putting the glue in a tiny dish first, then dabbing it on with a toothpick, so that a large amount of it won't pour all over the guitar.

step 3) let it cure for eight hours. It "dries" in five minutes, but it takes a lot longer to "cure", and is not hard enough to be sanded and polished until a few hours have passed.

step 4) lightly sand it down with micromesh pads, starting with 2000 is good, 1500 or less is sort of overkill. The masking tape will make sure that only the super glue and near by finish gets abased by the micromesh pads. Don't press down too hard, or else you will sand the good finish as well as the super glue, you just want to hit the super glue. As the super glue mound gets very flat, it becomes necessary to remove the sand paper since it impedes the clearance, so it's best to use 4000 grit and up at that point to slow things down and prepare for final polishing.

The reason it's important to fold over the masking tape is because, otherwise, tiny abrasive particles can collect at the edge of the masking tape's adhesive and create deep scratches along the edge of the tape as a you work the micromesh pads. Folding the tape both removes the adhesive edge and creates some space for the abrasive particles to travel underneath the tape, where they're less likely to be rubbed and cause scratches you move up to higher grits.

step 5) go over it with grits from 6000 - 12000 to get the scratches out. It's important to go in steps, as removing very low grit scratches with a very high grit pad takes a very long time.

step 6) go over it with buffing compound to make it shiny. Meguiar's Ultra Cut is my favorite, but it might have silicone, so just don't use it on exposed wood, like a rosewood fret board, for example. I've tried silicone-free compounds, but they're not nearly as good.

It's a good idea to clean it with naptha afterwords, or anything as effective, to remove all the extra buffing compound to make sure the scratches are really gone and not just filled in with the waxy compound. I think a lot of people assume a compound is working, and never realize all it's doing is filling the scratches with wax, and not actually removing them.
 
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All I want to say is I'm glad I don't worry about things like this. Belt rash happens, just play my friend, enjoy the guitar as a guitar!
 
Re: guitar scratches

I've done this basic method dozens of times


this works for deeper scratches the same way it works for dents.

The changes I've made from what this video suggests is to

- generally ditch the razor blade, one little slip and you cut through the super glue and into the actual finish and then you've made things worse, but some times the situation calls for the razor blade approach.

- get hard-backed micromesh pads from grits 1500 to 12000 and use those to make the super glue flat and smooth instead of the razor blade + sand paper.

step 1) mask the dent/scratch with masking tape, leaving about 1cm clearance between the tape and the damage, and have the edge of tape that's facing the damage folded over, so that it's not sticking directly to the finish along that edge (I'll explain why)

step 2) apply the glue to the scratch, ideally get it as flat as possible, that's why you get "super thin", so it won't form such a tall mound of glue. Consider putting the glue in a tiny dish first, then dabbing it on with a toothpick, so that a large amount of it won't pour all over the guitar.

step 3) let it cure for eight hours. It "dries" in five minutes, but it takes a lot longer to "cure", and is not hard enough to be sanded and polished until a few hours have passed.

step 4) lightly sand it down with micromesh pads, starting with 2000 is good, 1500 or less is sort of overkill. The masking tape will make sure that only the super glue and near by finish gets abased by the micromesh pads. Don't press down too hard, or else you will sand the good finish as well as the super glue, you just want to hit the super glue. As the super glue mound gets very flat, it becomes necessary to remove the sand paper since it impedes the clearance, so it's best to use 4000 grit and up at that point to slow things down and prepare for final polishing.

The reason it's important to fold over the masking tape is because, otherwise, tiny abrasive particles can collect at the edge of the masking tape's adhesive and create deep scratches along the edge of the tape as a you work the micromesh pads. Folding the tape both removes the adhesive edge and creates some space for the abrasive particles to travel underneath the tape, where they're less likely to be rubbed and cause scratches you move up to higher grits.

step 5) go over it with grits from 6000 - 12000 to get the scratches out. It's important to go in steps, as removing very low grit scratches with a very high grit pad takes a very long time.

step 6) go over it with buffing compound to make it shiny. Meguiar's Ultra Cut is my favorite, but it might have silicone, so just don't use it on exposed wood, like a rosewood fret board, for example. I've tried silicone-free compounds, but they're not nearly as good.

It's a good idea to clean it with naptha afterwords, or anything as effective, to remove all the extra buffing compound to make sure the scratches are really gone and not just filled in with the waxy compound. I think a lot of people assume a compound is working, and never realize all it's doing is filling the scratches with wax, and not actually removing them.

hi drex,
big thanks for your detailed reply, the info above will help me and others,

all the best, bluesfloyd.
 
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