Has anyone put a rough A2 in the production pearly gates?

gimmieinfo

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It was mentioned in the other thread about PG production vs custom shop and how the custom shop version has roughcast A2. Seems like it would be a good match given that the production PG is a bit bright and roughcast supposedly softens the highs. Has anyone thought to try roughcast A2 in the production PG and if so what was the result?
 
yes, and it wasnt a huge difference. the pg isnt overly bright to me. it has a strong upper mid peak, that through some rigs, might sound bright. pg in a lp into a tweed fender amp is fucking glorious for blues/rock tones
 
yes, and it wasnt a huge difference. the pg isnt overly bright to me. it has a strong upper mid peak, that through some rigs, might sound bright. pg in a lp into a tweed fender amp is ****ing glorious for blues/rock tones

Thanks. Yeah, its not overly bright, just a bit as i said. But i do find it brighter then most everything else i have tried in it. Just not by a lot. But others I've tried have a smoother tone so i think that makes the PG seem somewhat bright. But in a good way. I just thought maybe a roughcast might make it sound a little fatter. I do like them tho, and after swapping them back and fourth with my probuckers the last time they have stayed in. So no big issues, just a thought that if the custom shop uses rough maybe the production model would benfit fro it.
 
So no big issues, just a thought that if the custom shop uses rough maybe the production model would benfit fro it.

Let's share what came to my mind, FWIW.

Smooth magnets are more consistent in their actual dimensions and surface texture. Therefore they are easier/faster to mount and aren't subject to cause mechanical/vibrational problems met with some RC bars.

Anyway and once again (sorry to ramble), RC bars are not equal: depending on their age and on their batch / production process / the foundry where they come from, they can exhibit rather variable specs for a supposedly "same" alloy : actual mass defining the measured inductance, surface oxidization affecting eddie currents or not, inconsistent charge from magnet to magnet and even along the sides of a single bar (most magnets reveal to be inconsistently charged on their whole length when one measures them with a gaussmeter / teslameter but it's even truer with RC magnets IME).
For these reasons, mounting "a" rough cast bar doesn't guarantee what it will give sonically: in some cases, it makes a clear difference compared to a stock smooth magnet. in other situations, it makes no differences or not enough to be worth the hassle.

For those who haven't lab gear at disposal, the best thing to do IMHO and IME remains to try various magnets until the pickup sounds right, regardless of which kind of bar is used and even regardless of the alloy meant to be tried (knowing that a bar sold as an "A2" or "A3" might actually be made of another compound than claimed by the vendor, for whatever reason).

This approach is even applied by boutique winders AFAIK: I clearly recall a set of Stephens Design P.A.F. clones whose PU's weren't hosting the same kinds of magnets - there was a smooth shiny bar in the neck model and a dark RC one in the bridge unit.
 
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