Help. Godin Freeway Classic won't stay in tune.

Jethro_Dull

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When I first got this guitar, not long ago, I thought it just had dead strings. I put some cheap strings on it and that didn't help. I put some good strings on it and that didn't help. I lightly tightened the mounting screws on the bridge and that didn't help. I tried adjusting one of the pegs (with a screwdriver) and that didn't go well.

I suppose it could be the neck (unfortunately)...

ANY IDEAS / SUGGESTIONS?

Thanks,

Jeff
 
Re: Help. Godin Freeway Classic won't stay in tune.

ahhhh that sucks...
where did you buy the guitar from and have you looked down the neck to see if there's any warping or bowing or anything going on?

Have you set it up? That might be a huge problem. Especially if you switched gauges.
 
Re: Help. Godin Freeway Classic won't stay in tune.

Hello Jeff.

From a playing position, does the neck itself look to be relatively straight compared to the strings? or is it really close to the strings at one end and really far at another end?

If it is fairly straight, most likely it's just your intonation that needs to be adjusted at the bridge saddles. If you're talking about the tuning going out when you use the whammy bar, then it's probably a question of making sure the nut is cut properly.

If you're not comfortable or knowledgable in how to adjust these things (the nut especially), my advice would be to take it to your local guitar tech for a setup. Make sure you ask them to set it up for the specific strings and tuning that you plan to use.

The intonation adjustment is a fairly easy thing to learn though. just do a search on google for "how to adjust guitar intonation" and you should get something that'll show exactly how it's done.
 
Re: Help. Godin Freeway Classic won't stay in tune.

Are all the strings going out of tune, or just certain ones? Sometimes the string tees on the face of the headstock can hang up and cause tuning problems. A little lubrication might help.
 
Re: Help. Godin Freeway Classic won't stay in tune.

ahhhh that sucks...
where did you buy the guitar from and have you looked down the neck to see if there's any warping or bowing or anything going on?

Have you set it up? That might be a huge problem. Especially if you switched gauges.

Ebay. Buyer beware. Guess I'll be Googling set up and intonation adjustment.
 
Re: Help. Godin Freeway Classic won't stay in tune.

Ebay. Buyer beware. Guess I'll be Googling set up and intonation adjustment.

it's a good thing to know, and not all that difficult on regular trem guitars. You need a capo and either a set of feeler gauges or, if I remember correctly a nickel. or a penny. There's a method where you slide a coin under the center of your intonating area and if it just rubs, you're at a good string height. Sight down the neck and make sure your strings are generally the same arc as the neck, or buy a cheap radius gauge (or make one, take a ruler, put a thumbtack at zero and draw an arc at the point of your neck radius, then cut that arc out of a folder or piece of plastic; it's on youtube too)

Dave's World of Fun Stuff has a lot of these and Dave's effing awesome. Sounds like Bill Murray's character from Caddyshack.
 
Re: Help. Godin Freeway Classic won't stay in tune.

I re-tightened the mounting screws on the bridge and now the strings stay in tune. Score!
 
Re: Help. Godin Freeway Classic won't stay in tune.

I look forward to your posts now. I'd like to have more Godins as well, especially a Strat.
 
Re: Help. Godin Freeway Classic won't stay in tune.

Are the strings actually going out of tune, or are the fretted notes not playing in tune, even though the open strings are tuned fine?

If it's the latter, you just need to tune the intonation of each string. It's easy to do, and you can look up how to do it online on a million different Websites.

If it's the former, the number one cause is binding in the nut slots, in which case, you want to clean and possibly lubricate the slots and try again. Then if you still have binding issues, the slots need to be professionally widened. Another common cause would be strings that are wound too many times around the tuner posts. Try to keep the number of winds down to one or two (or less, if you wind the strings in a self locking fashion). Improperly installed or set up hardware could be another problem. For instance, it's very common for a guitar to come out of the factory with tuners that are installed too loosely, or a bridge that has the same problem. Also floating bridges are rarely set up properly from the factory, even on bona-fide Fenders. You can tighten screws and nuts yourself, but for the setup, you might want to go to a pro if you aren't confident tackling it yourself.
 
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Re: Help. Godin Freeway Classic won't stay in tune.

How would the number of winds around the tuner post cause strings to go out of tune?

fewer winds = less chance of string stretch, shift and slippage. I give my strings 90 degrees of turn then wrap the remainder under, then tune up. That's usually less than I feel comfortable with, but I haven't had a problem with it. Until I do, I'll continue to go with minimum wrap.
 
Re: Help. Godin Freeway Classic won't stay in tune.

fewer winds = less chance of string stretch, shift and slippage. I give my strings 90 degrees of turn then wrap the remainder under, then tune up. That's usually less than I feel comfortable with, but I haven't had a problem with it. Until I do, I'll continue to go with minimum wrap.

Wow that's interesting. Years ago I settled on always getting at least 3 winds around the post for wound strings and 4-5 for plain. The inserted start of the string is at the top and the coils underneath with the string leaving from the bottom of the coil to the nut. On the tuner peg, I push the coils up against where the string was first inserted to wedge the start of the string between the coil and the insert hole in the tuner. I also give the string several pulls to seat it all as it's brought up to tension the first time. This method has worked almost like a locking tuner for me for decades.
 
Re: Help. Godin Freeway Classic won't stay in tune.

I've lined the tuner holes up with the neck, run the strings thru, turn the tuners 90 degrees and loop the string back around the other way then tighten + snip. Its worked on both string types on all the strings I've changed. I just did a set of coated strings for a friend so I dunno how those will handle it.
If I was gonna do it professionally I'd ad a loop I think.

off u see did MRSAge, I m on tapa talk and auto correct is hating on me
 
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