Help! I hate my Hamer!

Benjy_26

25's Nemesis
Nah, not really, but I do need some help with it.

The Hamer in question is a '81 Special. It has a sustain block bridge (like the new Talladega), a 3 piece Honduras mahogany neck with rosewood fingerboard and a Gibson scale, a two piece mahogany body, a 1/8" flamed maple top, Schaller tuners, 3 way switching, 500k CTS pots (2v, master tone), and a .022 Orange Drop with 50's wiring.

I string this guitar with DR Pure Blues guaged .010-.042.

Acoustically, this guitar is very alive. Strummed chords kick back in your belly and even picked single note lines can be felt resonating up and down the neck. Tonally, I'd say it's balanced (leanin towards bright) with very, very good articulation and a very pleasant top end sparkle and a low end that seems to bloom.

This guitar has no problem sounding great in the neck position. I've tried the PGn, Jazz, APHn, Demon, and have settled on the 59n with Artie's De-mud mod s the neck pickup for this beastie.

My issue is with the bridge position.

I've tried plety of bridge units with varying degrees of success. All have sounded good, some great, but all have left me wanting.


This is my hard rock/new rock guitar, BTW.

I've tried the following:

*C5-Jack of all trades, master of none. The low end isn't particularly tight, the highs aren't all that sweet, and the leads just don't jump out.
*Custom- Too fizzy under light gain and not extreme enough under high gain. Good for riffing, not the best for leads.
*CC- Sounds too compressed in this guitar, There's no sparkle or bloom (Odd, as it does it all in my other guitars).
*Duncan Distortion-Cool mondo-distorto tone, too much high end fizz under low "just breakin' up" gain.
*JB-dig the leads, HATE the flabby low end for rythm. Cleans are nasally to boot.
*Dimebucker-Tight and hot, like a pissed off tele on 'roids. I dig it, but it's a bit one-dimensional. Could use less output and a sweeter top end. Cleans are surpisingly good thru a high headroom amp.
*Air Zone- Awesome leads, slightly muddy rythm.
 
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*Screamin Demon (12 Fillisters): Almost perfect, but needs a touch more mids and a bit more output wouldn't hurt.

*PG (8.2k): AWESOME cleans. This one almost made me retire my tele's. The OD tones were very harsh and icepicky though.

*Dimarzio Super D: This is an old 70's unpotted example. I love the thickness and roar when dirty. It even cleans up nicely, but it doesn't have the articulation I like or the low end thump I'm looking for. This one's a classic for a reason, but not my cup of tea.

Up to now my faves are the Dime, Demon, and Super D.

I'm looking for a pickup witha tight, chunky low end, good mids that'll help push leads out front, and sweet highs that aren't necessarily rounded, but not shrill either (I like top end detail and twang).

I think that a PATB-3 might be perfect for this axe, but it will not fit in the body routes, and I don't want to hack up my Hamer.

What do you guys recommend? Doesn't have to be Duncan, BTW. Should I call the CS and have a PATB-3 wound on SH bobbins? If I'm going CS, shoudl I try something else, maybe a S Deco?

Suggest and opine, please. :burnout:
 
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Wow. All those in one guitar? Hmmm, if you like the demon maybe one with an alnico 8 would work for this guitar.
 
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I have a 79 Hamer Special - i think its the first year it was made. And it was my test bed for pickups over the last years- nearly the same number of pickups.
Now the Hamer has modified stock pickups (DiMarzio PAF). I wound down the stud coil of the neck pickup until it has now 7.0k (the screw coil now has 4.0k, the stud 3.0k) and the Bridge pickup was sent to a winder, who wound 5.0k on the screw coil (this is 4.0k on the stud and 5.0k on the screw). Also change the Bridge to a A2 so its nearly a Brobucker.
Now its sounds fine very clear and demuded in the neck and ballsy in the bridge. Maybe i'm gonna swap the tone pot to a push-pull to make both pup splittable. The tone pot now works only on the bridge and is .015uF
Hope the helps!
 
Re: Help! I hate my Hamer!

Benjy, how about a jazz bridge? That might do you nicely.
 
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Thanks for the suggestions folks.

Getting an alnico VIII is definately on the short list.

The Phat Cats would be very interesting in this axe, but I can't fit covered pickups in it as the routes are super tight.

The BBQ has interested me for a while. How tight are the lows?

Thanks for all the suggestions. :burnout:
 
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Wow, I don't think I've tried half of the humbuckers you've tried... how about the Full Shred? it should be a step up in output from the Demon...
 
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the jazz is nice and punchy but not fatter than a demon to my ears. alnico 4 in the custom might be perfect for you
 
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Never thought of the FS, seeing as how I'm not a very shreddy player, the name kind of put me off.

C4 huh?

I see a magnet order in the near future. :)
 
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fatter than a c5 with sweeter highs

the first custom custom custom i made was a c4 not a c5 as i thought. at the time i didnt know about alnico 4 magnets and the guy that i got it from told me it was a5 so i ran with it. then i tried to do it again this time with a real a5 magnet and the results were different but the c5 worked great in the guitar it was in. it wasnt till a few years later that i figured out what i did.
 
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Invader man. No joke. Break from the norm and give it a shot....it'll totally surprise you.
 
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Also, Is the Jazz punchier and fatter than the Demon?

They are in the same kind of ballpark but, different at the same rate. Kind of hard to explain. Listen to Jollys clips.
 
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You might consider a JB with an alnico-2 magnet. It's what I have in my Hamer Archtop. It sounds really good. Nice mids and bottom, not too trebley.

I should point out that mine is all mahogany, so it will sound a little different in yours since you have the maple cap.

Jeff
 
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I think a A4 mag in a custom would really make the C5 into a more balanced machine for you.
 
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I tried the Invader in another guitar. It was too loose and undefined in the lows for me.

The JB 2 I tried years ago in a maple Carvin. I might have to slap one in this guitar, though I'm afraid the low end will just get looser and mushier.
 
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