Help me chose a bedstudio amp - I have some options in mind

waltschwarzkopf

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Hi guys,

I’m looking for a “does it all” amp. I know that this may not exist and also that these type of things usually do many things well/decently, but none great. That’s fine, as my main amp does exactly what I need and does it exceedingly well. I use it when I can really let it rip in the living room, and since it’s a head+cab I don’t like to move it much and is inconvenient to take to the studio because I take public transport. Therefore, I’m looking for one that can be tamed down to low bedroom levels in the evening BUT that could also be loud enough if I ever take it to the studio along a band (i.e. guitar, bass, drums, vocals).

Here are my minimum specs:
Specs (in parentheses) mean optional.

  • Power: Quite enough for bedroom, loud enough for studio. A power-soak would be ideal.
  • Speaker size: 10” (12” or 2x12”)
  • Tubes: 1 pre-amp, (+1 power). More tubes is not a problem.
  • Channels: clean + crunch (+overdrive/lead)
  • Footswitch: yes
  • Effects loop: (yes)
  • Line out / external cabinet / headphones: (yes)
  • Condition: used
  • Price: as low as possible

I’m looking to buy used in case “the one” appears and I need to resell this, then I wouldn’t take a big hit on the resale price.

So far I’ve found a Laney TF200 ($100) which surprisingly ticks all the boxes and has great-to-excellent reviews. The good part of being hybrid is that the volume can be lowered without affecting the tone much, right? I also saw a Blackstar HT-20 Studio ($300) but I think that is going to be too loud for quite use and/or may not even sound good at those volumes, also quite expensive. I saw too a Bassbreaker 15 ($360) that may not be powerful enough and is not foot switchable, and even more expensive, so it’s almost out of the question. There’s a Tubemeister 5 ($300) not too close to me, but is not foot-switchable and may not be loud enough for a band, but may be an excellent bedroom amp, although I find it quite pricey.

I don’t use any pedals and control most of the sound and dynamics from the guitar controls (yes, I use them and they do not stay on 10 all the time :P), but a footswitch to change the channels is almost a must for me. I’ve also seen many other solid states Marshall/Fender/Line6 15-20W for less than $100, but I think the will not sound that good (at any level) and most probably suck when cranked up to compete with the rest of the band. I want/need at least one tube in the pre-amp as I really like the dynamics that I get. The HT-20 has a volume for each channel PLUS a master volume, so I don’t know if the sound would suffer much when lowered to bedroom levels.

What do you think? So far the Laney looks like an overall winner, do you have any experience with it or the other models? Any other amps that come to mind that tick all or most of the boxes at a low price?

Looking forward to your comments and advise!

Cheers,
Walter
 
Re: Help me chose a bedstudio amp - I have some options in mind

The Bassbreaker 15 won't give you that feel of a clean/dirty channel switcher, it's a single channel amp with a gain/voicing knob. It sound good but would probably not be what you want. You can get clean, crunch from the amp, and boosted lead with a pedal if you want, there's ways to fake a 3 channel sound from a one channel amp but you have to experiment sometimes. EQ pedal in the loop, one that has a volume boost/cut, can help give you a preset volume boost or cut with EQ shaping to have a mock second/third channel.
The HT-20 to me sounds OK but once you hit that price point and performance I think the Marshall DSL40C sounds better to me. DSL can sound OK at low volumes, but it was designed to work with a band...

With the hybrid laney yes in theory those hybrid amps were made to sound good at low volumes but whether they do or not in reality is on an amp by amp basis and it really really helps to play it in person. Could be garbage to your ears despite all the reviews...

Also the tubemeister 5 will have no bass response or clean tone at the band volume.

If it were me, my money, I would either skip the need for channel switching and get the bassbreaker because I like the tone and feel and how it breaks up. It's like a blues Jr with british sounds. Portable and easy and sounds good.
Or skip the need for "good bedroom tone" (which is somewhat of a unicorn in the first place), and get a Marshall DSL or the HT20 if you like the HT sound. Because these will sound best with the band, and loud guitar playing is the most fun for me, so I would not skimp on the sound my amp makes when cranked!
Or, I would go modeling amp like Mustang III and say tubes are great but not needed for everything. Modelling amps like it will give you all the features you listed, sound ok at all volumes, are cheap, easy to take care of, light, somewhat durable. The mustang III has many decent sounds but no *amazing* sounds, for me anyways.
 
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Re: Help me chose a bedstudio amp - I have some options in mind

Thanks for the detailed reply. I’ll check the Marshall out and go try the Laney and see how it sounds, although it may be to big and heavy.


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Re: Help me chose a bedstudio amp - I have some options in mind

Look into the Hughes and Kettner Tubemeister Combo 18. It does all you want.
 
Re: Help me chose a bedstudio amp - I have some options in mind

Another Laney option -- albeit one that might be more expensive than you want -- is the Ironheart 30/60 watt combos. Three channels (clean, rhythm, lead), all with a built-in footswtichable boost (clean+boost is another great way of getting a crunch on that amp), the "watts" knob is a very effective volume control that works very well at low AND high levels, 12 inch speaker, and effects loop. I don't know that the combos have line out or external cab outputs, though.
 
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