Help w/ wiring

sbecker67

sbecker67

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I have a YJM set that I wanted to use with a GFS kit that employs three mini toggle switches (on/off/on) in place of a 5-way switch. The mini toggles would each control one pick-up (in phase/off/out of phase). I wanted to expand on this by adding a push/pull to run the pick-ups in true single coil mode.

I found diagrams for push/pull coil tapping and I found diagrams for using the mini toggles but nothing that incorporates both. Looking at the diagrams, I'm not even sure this possible.

Can anyone point me to a diagram that would allow this?
 
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You have two things going on there - PU selection and PU mode - that need to be on different switches.

I would do things the other way about. The three DP3T mini toggles would give full/off/tapped. I would put the phase reversal switching onto push-pull pots under the two tone controls. (You only require to be able to reverse two of them to get all of the possible permutations.)

There is a diagram for exactly this circuit in the book, How To Customise Your Electric Guitar by Adrian Legg. I shall have to try and unearth my copy.

To be honest, unless you want that Smells Like Teen Spirit intro sound, the combined tone of Stratocaster single coils, in parallel and electrically out-of-phase is pretty feeble. Your guitar. Your choice.
 
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Do you want 1 push pull to tap all 3 pups or Are you planning to use 3 push pulls to tap each pup?
 
Re: Help w/ wiring

cakire82 said:
Do you want 1 push pull to tap all 3 pups or Are you planning to use 3 push pulls to tap each pup?
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In his DiMarzio days, YJM had some of his personal guitars wired with a single Master Tone control. If one pole of the traditional lever selector switch is no longer required to feed the individual tone pots, its terminals become free to provide automatic coil-tapping in positions 2 and 4.

Something like this. http://www.seymourduncan.com/suppor...matics.php?schematic=3_stks4_1v_1t_5w_3splits
 
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Re: Help w/ wiring

Funkfingers said:
You have two things going on there - PU selection and PU mode - that need to be on different switches.

I would do things the other way about. The three DP3T mini toggles would give full/off/tapped. I would put the phase reversal switching onto push-pull pots under the two tone controls. (You only require to be able to reverse two of them to get all of the possible permutations.)

There is a diagram for exactly this circuit in the book, How To Customise Your Electric Guitar by Adrian Legg. I shall have to try and unearth my copy.

To be honest, unless you want that Smells Like Teen Spirit intro sound, the combined tone of Stratocaster single coils, in parallel and electrically out-of-phase is pretty feeble. Your guitar. Your choice.
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I was getting this impression. The kit came with instructions for wiring the switches in this manner but it wasn't color coded properly and only showed a 3 conducter wire.

I really don't care about the in/out of phase, I just like options and the kit looked pretty versatile.

If I go with using the switches as you suggest and using this diagram as a basis, http://www.seymourduncan.com/images/products/electric/stratocaster/501015-100_RevD.pdf, do I send the red/white wires to the two connections on the tap side of the switch and the green/black to the two connections on the humbuck side? I don't think I'll have a problem with the remaining connections, it was the color coding that was giving me fits.

I think I'll probably just put the push/pull aside for now and wire all three knobs as dedicated volume controls. In this case what about the bare/ground? Would I send the bare to the center/off position of each switch and then jumper teh switch to the pot or send the bare to the pot and then jumper the pot to the switch?

Lastly, the sent 500k pots with the kit. Given these are humbucker pickups should this be okay and does it really matter if I'm using them as volume pots and not tone pots.
 
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most of your push pulls have only two poles
you will need one with three poles to do the "split all three" thing

( the colors mentioned are for the Dimarzio splits
it would actually be red/white for Duncans )
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