Hey. What kind of chord is it when...

wickenspoet

wickenspoet

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Hey. What kind of chord is it when you play an E major, but with a flat 5th degree?

an example:

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---9-----
---8-----
---7-----
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What about a flat 5 in a major 7 chord?

---0------
---9------
---8------
---8------
---7------
---0------



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Re: Hey. What kind of chord is it when...

A jazz chord. Seriously though, they're usually just called by their normal name with the b5 tagged on to the end:

1 3 b5 - Maj b5
1 3 b5 7 - Maj7 b5
 
Re: Hey. What kind of chord is it when...

^^^ What Stv said.

As a side-note; I ****ing love those chords. Play'em really high up the neck with a tonne of distortion and flanger in a weird syncopated, off-beat rhythm = instant craziness.
 
Re: Hey. What kind of chord is it when...

what stv said

the full diminshed isnt used all that often . the half dim also called a minor 7 flat 5 ( m7b5) is more common in its place and is a great chord to add to your vocabularly
 
Re: Hey. What kind of chord is it when...

The chord isn't diminished. The interval is. (In the OP example, the fifth is diminished.) My bad for not clarifying. :notworthy
 
Re: Hey. What kind of chord is it when...

wickenspoet said:
---0------
---9------
---8------
---8------
---7------
---0------



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For me, the second one looks like a voicing I might use for either F#13/E where the 7th is the root of the chord. Or more likely (get ready for this) C7#9(#5)/E, where the 3rd is the root of the chord. I probably wouldn't play the high E either as it kind of clashes in a bad way with the D# on the G string. Could also be a Dbm6, where you would call the open strings Fb instead of E.

The first one could be used for the C7#9(#5), but I don't think the E on the G string is needed, it just doubles the root of the chord for no real useful reason, when it could be used for other colours..
 
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Re: Hey. What kind of chord is it when...

TimmyPage said:
For me, the second one looks like a voicing I might use for either F#13/E where the 7th is the root of the chord. Tr more likely (get ready for this) C7#9(#5)/E, where the 3rd is the root of the chord. I probably wouldn't play the high E either as it kind of clashes in a bad way with the D# on the G string. Could also be a Dbm6, where you would call the open strings Fb instead of E.

The first one could be used for the C7#9(#5), but I don't think the E on the G string is needed, it just doubles the root of the chord for no real useful reason, when it could be used for other colours..
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mr big shot here with the college knowledge
 
Re: Hey. What kind of chord is it when...

In my late teens and early twenties, I had a chord dictionary with the names of all these awkward buggers in it with, typically, ten or more possible fingering positions for each one.
:sleeping:

I got far more mileage out of misusing The Mickey Baker Jazz Guitar Tutor book and transcriptions of Robert Johnson. (F, he's good!)
 
Re: Hey. What kind of chord is it when...

TimmyPage said:
The whole point of my whole Music University degree is so I can act like a snob on the internet!
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well ya do a good job of it! Get out of here without your knowledge and in depth answers! WE DON'T NEED THAT HERE!
 
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