HHH Rail Strat

[ChunkyGuitar]

Trouble with a HHH setup. Running a 3 humbucker strat. Figured that a 5 way delete and running 3 on/off/on mini toggles in a ( split , off , humbuck) configuration obviously 1 switch per pickup. Soon as I involved the tone pots I got lost. I was able to get a mock up to split and operate on the bench using the volume but when I incorporated the other 2 pickups I haven’t been able to get them to operate withe the 2 tone pots. Thought there would be more out there diagram wise for this because it sounds really simple, but has been kicking my butt for weeks now. Any help appreciated!

 

[Artie]

Welcome to the forum. A couple questions:

1. Are these Hot Rails / Cool Rails?

2. Do you want the traditional Neck tone / Middle tone / Bridge no tone?
Or N/M Tone / Bridge Tone?

 

[ChunkyGuitar]

Rails. N/M/B tone would be preferable. Teally thoughtbit was going to be less complicated. I also still have 2 .22 caps left or can order something else is needed. It has one installed from when I originally bought it.

 

[Artie]

N/M/B tone would be preferable.

Sorry. That doesn't really answer my question. A 5-way switch allows for some tone control isolation. Three toggles doesn't. Doing a Master vol / master tone, would be easy. Trying to do one tone for N/M and one for the bridge doesn't look possible.

I'll show what I've done so far.

 

[Artie]

This variation, (recommended), will make N/M and M/B humbucking.

 

[Teleplayer]

The difficulty with your schematic is the 3 position ON-OFF-ON switches. I prefer the simpler 2 position DPDT toggles, because they are easier to use, and mostly the rail pickups don’t sound good with coil-splits anyway.

If using DPDT toggles, I would wire the following logic:
Bridge pickup OFF -> Select Tone 1
Bridge pickup ON -> Select Tone 2

 

[Artie]

The difficulty with your schematic is the 3 position ON-OFF-ON switches. I prefer the simpler 2 position DPDT toggles, because they are easier to use, and mostly the rail pickups don't sound good with coil-splits anyway.

I agree. But that's what the OP asked for.

For what you're saying, the diagram is on the website:

https://www.seymourduncan.com/images/wiring-diagrams/3S_2mt_1V_2T.pdf

 

[ChunkyGuitar]

I am very thankful for all of the help here. I will try and be more clear. I am wanting all of the functionality of the tones 1 and 2. The 3 switch toggles were so I could individually control each humbucker as split , off , or humbucker. The 5 way as I was trying seemed to just complicate it further. This would give me the ability to singularly select which pickup is active and allow SSS,SHH, HHS , HSH etc. and allow running all 3 pickups if so desired still keeping the ability to shut off any pickup in any combination. Reasons behinds it are simple I think it would be neat and I haven’t seen it. I have considered the Hyper Switch but not sure if it’s capable for the particular options I am trying to achieve.

 

[Artie]

Cool. I thought that's what you meant. Either of my diagrams does that. The 2nd one maintains humbucking when you select split, with N/M or M/B.

 

[ChunkyGuitar]

Awesome cannot wait to get on my bench and try this out.