So let's say you got a little carried away (an understatement) and added to the winding of a Seth Lover bridge pickup and cranked it up to about 9.2-9.4K (unpotted and with cover). Assuming a somewhat loose and completely scattered wind (and they seem kind of spongy as they come from SD anyway) do you think an A2 magnet might be too loose and flabby, just a huge ball of mids, at this resistance? What would be your first choice of mag for this? And why, if you don't mind... Anyone have any similar experience? No pedals, gibson-type guitar into a plain old overdriven Gibson amp. I like mids, love the Fresh Cream tone (prefer it to Bloomfield which I find a hair bright) but don't want to completely fart out the bass and eliminate highs altogether, which I'm afraid an A2 might do to a loose 9.2+ K. I know, I know, I'm being lazy because I'd like to pop one in and not have to unsolder the cover again.
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The pickup would sound great if MJ wound it. It would be sort of like a EVH/78 only with a cover. Alnico 2 would be just fine - that's what the 78 is.
The pickups in Mike Bloomfield's Les Paul as well as Clapton's Fresh Cream Les Paul would have been around 8.1K. The LP Clapton used for the Bluesbreakers stuff was probably a '60 with alnico 5 pickups. The LP Clapton used for Fresh Cream was a year or two older and probably had alnico 2 pickups. Mike Bloomfield's LP sounds like alnico 5 to me.
I think most of the diff in the tone of those three LP's has to do with the players, the volume they were recorded at, the microphones used, the board, the room, the recording engineer and the diff in tone between a cranked Marshall with Celestions vs a cranked Fender amp with Jensens or whatever was in the amps Bloomfield used.
Clapton has his touch and taste - Bloomfield (who I've been listening a lot to lately) had his touch and taste. Neither guy used hot humbuckers - just 8.1K Gibson pafs similar to the Seth Lover or 59.
The pickup would sound great if MJ wound it. It would be sort of like a EVH/78 only with a cover. Alnico 2 would be just fine - that's what the 78 is.
The pickups in Mike Bloomfield's Les Paul as well as Clapton's Fresh Cream Les Paul would have been around 8.1K. The LP Clapton used for the Bluesbreakers stuff was probably a '60 with alnico 5 pickups. The LP Clapton used for Fresh Cream was a year or two older and probably had alnico 2 pickups. Mike Bloomfield's LP sounds like alnico 5 to me.
I think most of the diff in the tone of those three LP's has to do with the players, the volume they were recorded at, the microphones used, the board, the room, the recording engineer and the diff in tone between a cranked Marshall with Celestions vs a cranked Fender amp with Jensens or whatever was in the amps Bloomfield used.
Clapton has his touch and taste - Bloomfield (who I've been listening a lot to lately) had his touch and taste. Neither guy used hot humbuckers - just 8.1K Gibson pafs similar to the Seth Lover or 59.
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Eric used Marshalls and Mike used BF Fender Twin Reverbs...I'd say that has a LOT more to do with the different tone than the pickups. I use Antiquities in my R8 and I can get very close to old Clapton with a chocolate Fender Deluxe or if I want very close to Bloomfield with my 69 Twin Reverb...
Forget overwound pickup and all that other stuff, just get a good set of PAF's and play...
Eric used Marshalls and Mike used BF Fender Twin Reverbs...I'd say that has a LOT more to do with the different tone than the pickups. I use Antiquities in my R8 and I can get very close to old Clapton with a chocolate Fender Deluxe or if I want very close to Bloomfield with my 69 Twin Reverb...
Forget overwound pickup and all that other stuff, just get a good set of PAF's and play...
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I should have worded this in a non-hypothetical manner! Thanks for the response guys. What happened was, I got a spectacular deal on a pair of Seth Lover pickups. Neck pickup is perfect, 7.8 to 7.9, but the bridge only read about 6.8. Why? I have no idea. This was not malfunctioning - windings were intact, pickup had never been used. For some reason, it was only wound to about 3.4 + or - per coil. They were nowhere even close to being full and 6.8 is just a little too weak and thin for me. I thought about reversing them as 7.8 or so for a bridge is t top territory and I can live with that, but I do use the neck a lot and it would have just simply been too weak. So, I added to the windings but overshot my mark and now I have a bridge at 9.2-9.4 (my meter is old and non-digital) which is quite asymetrical (screw coil is @ 4.1 or 4.2, slug at @ 5 or a little over). My concern is that, as my portion of the windings are pretty loose and scattered, and the Seths don't seem to be very tightly wound to begin with, that the A2 might yield just too much flabbiness at this high resistance (for an unpotted 42pe paf type). The mention of players was just for a tonal comparison of what I find appealing - I'm not trying to be a copycat!
I should have worded this in a non-hypothetical manner! Thanks for the response guys. What happened was, I got a spectacular deal on a pair of Seth Lover pickups. Neck pickup is perfect, 7.8 to 7.9, but the bridge only read about 6.8. Why? I have no idea. This was not malfunctioning - windings were intact, pickup had never been used. For some reason, it was only wound to about 3.4 + or - per coil. They were nowhere even close to being full and 6.8 is just a little too weak and thin for me. I thought about reversing them as 7.8 or so for a bridge is t top territory and I can live with that, but I do use the neck a lot and it would have just simply been too weak. So, I added to the windings but overshot my mark and now I have a bridge at 9.2-9.4 (my meter is old and non-digital) which is quite asymetrical (screw coil is @ 4.1 or 4.2, slug at @ 5 or a little over). My concern is that, as my portion of the windings are pretty loose and scattered, and the Seths don't seem to be very tightly wound to begin with, that the A2 might yield just too much flabbiness at this high resistance (for an unpotted 42pe paf type). The mention of players was just for a tonal comparison of what I find appealing - I'm not trying to be a copycat!
