How can I tell which pickup I have?

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Hello, can anyone help me identify these pickups? They were taken from a Japanese Kramer. :sad:

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At first I thought those were a set of SD "LiveWire" pickups.

Upon closer look, however, those appear to be counterfeits

The construction is a bit off, no labels underneath, the wiring clearly isn't right at all (only 2 wires?), etc.

Were these wired up passively (i.e. no battery)? What model were these in?
 
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Why quote?↑↑↑ No one is going to be confused as to what you're responding to.

Anyways, they look more like counterfeit Blackouts...
 
Re: How can I tell which pickup I have?

Why quote?↑↑↑ No one is going to be confused as to what you're responding to.

Anyways, they look more like counterfeit Blackouts...

'Cuz I feel like it. And this way people know I'm responding to you with this particular post ;)
 
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'Cuz I feel like it. And this way people know I'm responding to you with this particular post ;)

OMG...did you see what I did there? I quoted MYSELF!

Forum's clearly falling apart. What should we do?
 
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In all honesty, I did it to see if it would capture the pictures over the long term. There are a lot of counterfeits and growing. This is a good example of one.

I figured everyone knew I was responding to the OP since I was the first reply. I'm not that dense, lol! Some others, however...
 
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I know that late 80's import Kramers had some epoxy potted Duncan OEM pickups that looked like EMG's. As I remember they were labeled as Seymour Duncan and NOT Duncan Designed. However, I don't know what kind of wiring they used?

Here they are the 100 Series:
http://www.vintagekramer.com/company11.htm
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Re: How can I tell which pickup I have?

listen to it:
If it sounds good = good kind of pickup;
If it sounds bad = bad kind.
 
Re: How can I tell which pickup I have?

I know that late 80's import Kramers had some epoxy potted Duncan OEM pickups that looked like EMG's. As I remember they were labeled as Seymour Duncan and NOT Duncan Designed. However, I don't know what kind of wiring they used?

Here they are the 100 Series:

Those explicitly said "Designed by Seymour Duncan" in gold print and are very different than what the OP posted!
 
Re: How can I tell which pickup I have?

Those explicitly said "Designed by Seymour Duncan" in gold print and are very different than what the OP posted!
Ok that still leaves the question of how phoney blackouts came as original equipment on a Kramer guitar from the 80's.
 
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I don't think they are Blackouts, as it looks like they pre-date them. I'm still gonna go with them being old OEM pickups.
 
Re: How can I tell which pickup I have?

I don't think they are Blackouts, as it looks like they pre-date them. I'm still gonna go with them being old OEM pickups.
With Skopp gone has anyone been around long enough to remember what they are?
 
Re: How can I tell which pickup I have?

Ok, peeps, let's break this down...

1) We have no way of knowing if what the OP says is actually true. Do these even look like pickups that would come in a vintage Kramer? Where's the guitar?

2) Even if, on the unlikely chance, these were pulled from a Japanese Kramer, there's nothing to suggest that they were the original pickups that came in the guitar. If they were, why can't we find an example? The import catalogs don't show these pickups in any of Kramer's models.

3) 1980's vintage (which is being assumed by you all) puts these in the O.G. "LiveWire" camp. Does anyone remember what those pickups looked like? Hint: no screen-printed logo and a much different plastic housing.

4) If they were real Duncan actives, they'd have 3 lead wires. If they were real Duncan passives, they'd have 4-conductor wiring or braided leads.

P.S.- They look a heck of a lot like these known counterfeits posted on AliExpress, right down to the plastic trim rings and the resistance specs:

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Sorry, OP, but those pickups are F-A-K-E!

Did I mention I spent several years as the lead quality inspector for an electronic component procurement firm? I've got an eye for detail ;)
 
Re: How can I tell which pickup I have?

When the 1st person to reply does a giant nonsensical quote. Who the eff else would you be talking to!!

Whoah there, Nelly! So sensitive...

I stated my reason was to try and lock in the pictures...just in case. Might have been a pointless effort, but these are clearly fake pickups and others should be able to see that long after this thread sinks to the bottom of the pile.
 
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