How would this sound?

Sune

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25.5" scale bolt on with contoured joint
Mahogany body with quilted maple top
Maple neck with ebony fingerboard
Medium/high frets
Dual Seymour Duncan pickups: SH-10 (bridge) & SH-2 (neck)
Volume & tone knobs with a 3 way selector switch
Tone-Pro® Bridge
Ferrule design

How would that sound?
 
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Every piece of wood is different so it's hard to say for sure, but it sounds like a cross between a Les Paul Custom and a Strat wood-wise.

The Full Shred and Jazz are pretty bright sounding pickups so the combination of them with all that maple and ebony (two very bright sounding woods) might make it too thin and ice-picky sounding, especially if the guitar has a thin or small body, which would reduce the amount of mahogany which is a warmer, fatter sounding wood than maple or ebony.

The longer Fender-style scale (25.5" vs. Gibson-style 24.75") would also add to the brightness.

In that case I would recommend against the pickups you chose in favor of a Custom or Custom 5 for the bridge and an Alnico 2 Pro or Seth Lover for the neck.
 
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Well, it's for hard rock/metal..Would it still be too bright for that?
 
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Zhangliqun said:
Every piece of wood is different so it's hard to say for sure, but it sounds like a cross between a Les Paul Custom and a Strat wood-wise.

The Full Shred and Jazz are pretty bright sounding pickups so the combination of them with all that maple and ebony (two very bright sounding woods) might make it too thin and ice-picky sounding, especially if the guitar has a thin or small body, which would reduce the amount of mahogany which is a warmer, fatter sounding wood than maple or ebony.

The longer Fender-style scale (25.5" vs. Gibson-style 24.75") would also add to the brightness.

In that case I would recommend against the pickups you chose in favor of a Custom or Custom 5 for the bridge and an Alnico 2 Pro or Seth Lover for the neck.
I agree with everything up there ^^^^

Sune said:
Well, it's for hard rock/metal..Would it still be too bright for that?
IMO, yes it would be to bright for hard rock and metal.
 
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Well, I don't have so many pickups to choose from, I only have this:

Bridge:
SH-10
SH-4
SH-8
SH-6

neck:
SH-2
SH-10
SH-8
SH-6
 
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Sune said:
Well, it's for hard rock/metal..Would it still be too bright for that?

Probably. But if you're handy with a solder gun, it can't hurt to try it out -- we could be wrong...
 
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MEMO TO SELF: Make conversion chart for all those SH numbers to regular pickup names, e.g., SH55 = Seth Lover...
 
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Sune said:
Well, I don't have so many pickups to choose from, I only have this:

Bridge:
SH-10
SH-4
SH-8
SH-6

neck:
SH-2
SH-10
SH-8
SH-6

I take it you have these models laying around but can't afford to buy any others?

Do you have a neck version of the Invader (SH-8n)? Should measure 7.2k on the multi-meter whereas the bridge is at 16.8k.

That's definitely a viable option for a warmer neck pu. If they make them like in the old days, though, there's a capacitor in the pickup "bush" (where all the wire leads are taped together under the main wrap-around tape) that shunts off some of the treble. CUT IT...

Otherwise, you're probably stuck with the Jazz for a neck pu, which may still sound good anyway ---- Remember, we can't actually pick up your guitar and play it, we're only guessing from our experience with various woods and pickup types. Your guitar may actually be pretty balanced tone-wise.

Of the 4 bridge pickups you mention, if the guitar is as bright sounding as we think it is, the Invader would probably do the job. It's got craploads of low and low-mids. If the Invader is too heavy and dark, probably the other option is the Distortion (SH-6). Going by the chart it's a hair too far in the other direction if the guitar is overly bright but it's the least bright of the remaining three (JB, Full Shred, Distortion).
 
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Well, would it be better with the full shred and jazz if I got another fingerboard then? like a rosewood fingerboard?
 
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Hmm, does anyone have some soundclips of the Jazz and the Full Shred together on a guitar with a mahogany body and a ebony fingerboard? Just to hear if it's too bright.
 
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Sune said:
Hmm, does anyone have some soundclips of the Jazz and the Full Shred together on a guitar with a mahogany body and a ebony fingerboard? Just to hear if it's too bright.

Did you look in the Tips and Clips room?

Luke
 
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No, I haven't. I'm new here so I haven't thought about that. Thanks.

Hey, a bit offtopic;
I feel I have been received very well here on this forum, even though I have asked some stupid questions, but hey, that's how it's like when you're a beginner. I haven't met any *******s yet. I will definately recommend this forum to others. Thumbs up!
 
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Too bright? A mahogany body? I've got a maple neck through BC Rich with an epony board and while it's bright, I'd never say it's too bright for metal (didn't even know that was possible). The pups in it are also every bit as hot as the Full Shred (they might even be hotter). If brightness is that big of a concern, you might try a mahogany neck instead of a maple neck to tame some brightness. Might also try a custom custom to tame some highs if you decide to stick with a maple neck.

The string through design should add a good bit of fullness to the tone.

It's hard to say how exactly it will sound... there are way to many variables, some of which you listed, but many more that you can't put into words so easily, such as the specific cut of wood the body and neck are taken from. Not all wood is created equal.
 
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Hey, I am not afraid of it being too bright, some people here just said it would be too bright (as you can see), and I am a newbie, so I have to believe what people are saying. But thank you very much, now I'm more comfortable, and not so afraid of buying that combination. I guess there's some truth to what you're saying, because I know some death metal guys who use that combination, so it can't be too bright for metal and hard rock I guess, if you can use it for death metal.
 
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MikeS said:
Too bright? A mahogany body? I've got a maple neck through BC Rich with an epony board and while it's bright, I'd never say it's too bright for metal (didn't even know that was possible).

Mike that's what I was thinking too.

Sune, we're glad you feel at home here, we try to be a big happy family, yeah we have spats, but we make up and get on with our lives. Bannings don't happen here either, people who make problems eventually just leave.

We're glad we could help you too man.

Luke
 
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I guess you can understand my concern right? You know, I turn 17 this july, and I don't have alot of money, so if I go out and spend like 1500$ on a guitar, I want to make sure it's a guitar that fit my demands, because after that I wouldn't be able to afford new pickups if it were the wrong ones, and I don't have any experience in installing new pickups. But now I am not afraid of buying it with a Full Shred and a Jazz. Since the full shred isn't on sale anymore, it would also make it kinda unique, huh? ;-) Thanks for your help. If I do buy the guitar, which I'm counting on, I'll be sure to post some pictures here!
 
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