I thought the cure for PMS was Midol?

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Pretty damned overpriced too. Get the correct diameter wood screws and use some adhesive backed foam strips to allow you to install easily and adjust height without issues. Sure the brass may give a bit more for tone, but for $50 a pickup? No thanks.
 
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Not a bad idea but way overpriced.

Oh and the whole mounted pups = increased resonance.

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Be a good idea for a guitar that has had pups in and out and the wood floor is all torn up, or if you want to mount a short legged pup. But yeah, pricey. having Mike Learn's name with it will gain some sales tho..
Id love to have the trick looking Ti saddles tho, but holy cow, I could buy a guitar with that much money.. I guess if I was selling cds and making big cake, Id have em tho! haha
 
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way overpriced, but a cool idea for eliminating the stripped/enlarged threads on the mounting legs for direct mounting.
 
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I kind of like the idea, but am not seeing how it's going to improve anything unless the pups are screwed down hard onto them, which may not then have the desired height set. As soon as you start doing height adjustments, is it going to be any different to hanging them off a pickup mounting ring. Maybe I'm missing something...
 
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Blowing smoke, all it is. As was stated, it's a nice concept for helping with butchered feet, but really now, the brass thing is getting absurd.

Brass truss rod covers, cavity covers, knobs, jack plates, Floyd arms, and switch tips will be the next tone-enhancing miracle discoveries.

Along with brass strings and frets. Then we'll be back to brass nuts, brass pins in the brass locking tuners, brass Floyd nuts, brass screws, all-brass Floyds (including the saddle blocks), brass inlays, brass binding, brasswood fretboards, brasswood bodies, brass cables, brass amps, brass speakers. I tell ya it'll look like some Steampunk masturbatory fantasy :lol:
 
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DrNewcenstein said:
Blowing smoke, all it is. As was stated, it's a nice concept for helping with butchered feet, but really now, the brass thing is getting absurd.

Brass truss rod covers, cavity covers, knobs, jack plates, Floyd arms, and switch tips will be the next tone-enhancing miracle discoveries.

Along with brass strings and frets. Then we'll be back to brass nuts, brass pins in the brass locking tuners, brass Floyd nuts, brass screws, all-brass Floyds (including the saddle blocks), brass inlays, brass binding, brasswood fretboards, brasswood bodies, brass cables, brass amps, brass speakers. I tell ya it'll look like some Steampunk masturbatory fantasy :lol:
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The first issue of Guitar Player magazine I got as a kid around 1981 had a Fender ad on the back that was for all of the brass replacement parts that they sold for their instruments, things like bridges, knobs, nuts, etc. To be fair, Fender wasn't claiming tone so much as sustain as the reason for "upgrading" many of the parts that you mentioned to brass.
 
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Sweet. Not.

Adding considerable mass will increase sustain, true, but a knob? *A* KNOB!? As in ONE!?

And strap pins!?

No wonder everybody hates America. I don't blame them.

The whole thing reminds me of the Jet Frets booth at Summer NAMM in 2004. Massive steel I-beams in your fretboard to improve sustain.
To illustrate, they had a player at the booth using a guitar that had been redone with Jet Frets:

A Les Paul
With EMGs
Through a TripleRec
Shredding a million miles an hour

Solid mahogany 9 pound axe = sustain
speed metal + EMG 81 + high-gain = who gives a crap about sustain?

Drop it down to 3 and hit me with some blues, then tell me about sustain.
 
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its like the late 70s all over again, LOL.

$50 - Gimme a break.
 
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I like the idea a lot, but $50 per pickup is steep. I could see myself buying it if it was $50 for a set of 2.

In my experience, the whole "direct mount" resonance concept doesn't work well with most pickups because the mounting plate/ legs most manufacturers use are very soft and don't transfer resonance all that well. However, direct mounting actives like EMG's or Blackouts work great as the preamps amplify the resonance and vibration of the guitar body to the pickup.

IMO this Mike Learn/ FU Upgrades plate should work great because, it seems, there's a middle bolt that would be used as height adjustment, which would provide direct contact with the bottom of the pickup, providing an extra point of contact and resonance transfer beyond the soft pickup legs many manufacturers use.
 
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I think it's a good idea for direct mounting pickups, but I don't think that brass has any more merit than any other metal. You can probably build the same thing fairly inexpensively. I use threaded inserts for my direct mounts.
 
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$5 each is reasonable. $50 is absurd. Makes for an effective direct mount when you don't want to use mounting rings. But tone or sustain results = negligible.
 
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Not going to knock direct mount until I have future experience. Seems to me a caliper that can measure depth and some washers (to shim) would at least make a little difference.
 
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I agree with everyone who said it is a good idea for mounting purposes, but there is no way it makes a huge difference in the sustain IMO. I also agree with everyone who said the price is absurd. It would be pretty easy to make a set at home.
 
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DrNewcenstein said:
Sweet. Not.

Adding considerable mass will increase sustain, true, but a knob? *A* KNOB!? As in ONE!?

And strap pins!?

No wonder everybody hates America. I don't blame them.

The whole thing reminds me of the Jet Frets booth at Summer NAMM in 2004. Massive steel I-beams in your fretboard to improve sustain.
To illustrate, they had a player at the booth using a guitar that had been redone with Jet Frets:

A Les Paul
With EMGs
Through a TripleRec
Shredding a million miles an hour

Solid mahogany 9 pound axe = sustain
speed metal + EMG 81 + high-gain = who gives a crap about sustain?

Drop it down to 3 and hit me with some blues, then tell me about sustain.
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Can ah get an Amen ?? Preach it bro!! right on!

yeah, its getting nuts.. I DO ABSOLUTELY believe in the merit of the big brass blocks tho!
 
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Ever wonder why the brass blocks are so much larger than the regular blocks? Size.

Get a steel block that size and witness the power of marketing.
Or, get a brass block the same dimensions as the stock block and see that brass spring blocks are no different than steel.

Waiting for someone to come out with mahogany "sustain" blocks to "make your Floyded Strat sound like a Les Paul!"
 
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DrNewcenstein said:
Waiting for someone to come out with mahogany "sustain" blocks to "make your Floyded Strat sound like a Les Paul!"
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Believe it or not, I've seen one talked about on another forum. Very high end booteek guitar.
 
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And there we have it. Apply a little marketing magic and you'll see them everywhere.

Let's see, block of mahogany with 3 grommets as used on string-through guitars, maybe even a notched metal insert (to keep the springs from ripping out the wood with use), inserts in the top to mount to the baseplate - and of course the inserts and spring grommets will have to be brass - and there your basswood Ibenhad whammy-loaded shredstick barks like <insert player's name here>'s Les Paul.

Something like that?
 
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