Ibanez 5 way wiring question

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AAAHHH79

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Hi! I´m trying to wire a humbucker and a p rails. As the p rails can be used as two separated coils, I have been advised to wire it as an HSS guitar. Anyway, I´m following this diagram:
http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=1h_2s_1v_1t_5w_as
So, this might be a REALLY dumb question but I want to be 100% sure before making any mistake, I have an Ibanez 5 way switch and the one in the diagram I´m assuming it´s a fender one. So, for example, this lug:

Sin título.jpg

It´s the same as this one?:

j.jpg

I was also wondering if this site has the answer:
http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazi...f_the_Stratocaster_5_way_Switch_Part_III.aspx
Maybe my switch is like th one described on the Far East 5-way Switch part, and I just need to transfer the numbers from the fender style switch to mine.

Appreciate any help.
Thanks.
 
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oh, another thing.
This:
j.jpg
..Means that all those wires are soldered together, I mean, touching each other?
Don´t think I´m stupid, it´s just that it´s my first wiring and I don´t want to make any silly mistake.
Thanks.
 
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AAAHHH79 said:
Hi! I´m trying to wire a humbucker and a p rails. As the p rails can be used as two separated coils, I have been advised to wire it as an HSS guitar. Anyway, I´m following this diagram:
http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=1h_2s_1v_1t_5w_as
So, this might be a REALLY dumb question but I want to be 100% sure before making any mistake, I have an Ibanez 5 way switch and the one in the diagram I´m assuming it´s a fender one. So, for example, this lug:

View attachment 39416

It´s the same as this one?:

View attachment 39417

I was also wondering if this site has the answer:
http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazi...f_the_Stratocaster_5_way_Switch_Part_III.aspx
Maybe my switch is like th one described on the Far East 5-way Switch part, and I just need to transfer the numbers from the fender style switch to mine.

Appreciate any help.
Thanks.
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Wrong.

This are the lugs in the fender switch, seen flipped 45 degrees left:

B C
M B
N M
C N

And this is how those lugs would be mapped to your switch:

B M N C C B M N

Being:

B the lug for bridge pickup
M the lug for middle pickup
N the lug for bridge pickup
C the common

Each side corresponds to one side of the fender 5-way.

But this is true only if you have a regular Ibanez 5-way because, there are some Ibanez switches which switching system deviates from standard switching system.
 
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AAAHHH79 said:
oh, another thing.
This:
View attachment 39423
..Means that all those wires are soldered together, I mean, touching each other?
Don´t think I´m stupid, it´s just that it´s my first wiring and I don´t want to make any silly mistake.
Thanks.
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Yes, that is.
But In fact, they don't need to be all together soldered to a single spot, as soon as all them are soldered to any spot of the pot's case.
You could even solder some of them on the other pot's case.
As soon as they all share same ground network (i.e., they are electrically connected), everything is ok.
What you see here is what is named a "common grounding spot", that allows you to connect all grounds in a star-network configuration, that is usually the preferred way for quietest wirings.
 
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hermetico said:
But this is true only if you have a regular Ibanez 5-way because, there are some Ibanez switches which switching system deviates from standard switching system.
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Ok, but how can I know if my switch has that configuration?
 
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AAAHHH79 said:
Ok, but how can I know if my switch has that configuration?
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Is your switch the one that came stock with your axe?.
If so, which Ibanez model are we talking about?.
Can you read the switch model (something like DP....)?
 
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AAAHHH79 said:
Oh, another little doubt, in this picture, the lug on the right is soldered with the other cables?
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Yes, and I don't recommend you that method, because of two reasons:

The lug takes more to be heated than any other wire or cable, what can make you to frie your pot.
If you leave the lug as it is, you would be able to reuse that pot for anything a pot can be used in other project, without issues.

Instead of soldering the lug to the case, just solder a jumper (little wire), between that lug and the case.
 
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hermetico said:
Is your switch the one that came stock with your axe?.
If so, which Ibanez model are we talking about?.
Can you read the switch model (something like DP....)?
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It came with my Ibanez rg 321mh.
On one side says COR-TEK, and on the other says 2502 something and below that a 1.
 
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The switch in your RG321 is not a standard strat style five way switch. It's a specially made Cortek switch, made for Ibanez for their H-H electric guitars. Wiring based on a standard strat switch diagram will not work out. Look up your model on the Ibanez.com site's wiring diagrams section to see how the swich is wired up. ;)
 
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LonePhantom said:
Wiring based on a standard strat switch diagram will not work out.
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What do you mean? I'll do it like hermetico said, just have to transfer each lug from the fender 5 way diagram to it's corresponding lug in my switch. It's quite simple. I think it should work.
 
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AAAHHH79 said:
What do you mean? I'll do it like hermetico said, just have to transfer each lug from the fender 5 way diagram to it's corresponding lug in my switch. It's quite simple. I think it should work.
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Like I said, it's not a standard strat style five way. It was specially made by Cortek for Ibanez to use in their H-H electric guitars. The traces for each lug do not follow the same pattern as a standard strat style import five way. Look up your guitar's five way wiring diagram on the Ibanez site like I suggested and you'll see.
 
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LonePhantom said:
Like I said, it's not a standard strat style five way. It was specially made by Cortek for Ibanez to use in their H-H electric guitars. The traces for each lug do not follow the same pattern as a standard strat style import five way. Look up your guitar's five way wiring diagram on the Ibanez site like I suggested and you'll see.
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^^^^^
Exactly this was my point. He is not fooling you, AAAHHH79.

A Fender 5-way is really a 3-way with two tricky notch positions, so when in neck+middle position, the common lug is connected to both, the neck and the middle lugs and, when in middle+bridge position, the common lug is connected to both, the middle and bridge lugs.

But, that Cortek switch, even having the same lugs, has a very different way of switching (which lugs are connected to each common for each position) respect of the Fender 5-way. So, a direct lug mapping from a fender's to a cortek's will give you unexpected results.
 
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Thank you hermetico. It's amazing how sometimes people will ask a question, and then not listen to the advice.
 
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LonePhantom said:
It's amazing how sometimes people will ask a question, and then not listen to the advice.
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I'm sorry Phantom, didn't want to be rude, it's just that I didn't understand well what you were trying to tell me. I'm from a country that has spanish as mother language, so sometimes I have problems to understand some words and expressions.
But, regarding the switch, what should I do? If I can't follow that diagram I'm completely lost.
 
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My problem is that I can´t find any wiring diagrams for Ibanez HSS guitars with 1 vol 1 tone. The nearest thing I could find was the diagram of the Ibanez AT, but it has 2 volume pots.
 
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As I've said a couple of times now, check out the wiring diagram for your guitar.

I had a look myself, and the Ibanez link is broken, but a google image search for "Ibanez RG321 wiring diagram" certainly got some results:
rgt42wiringdiagram.jpg


See, it's not a standard strat 5 way wiring setup.

The challenge you now have is working out what options you want from the P Rails.

The bridge humbucker will wire up black for SD humbucker where the red goes for the bridge, green and bare where the blue and bare go to the back of the pot. Black and White for the bridge will be red and white on the SD humbucker.
 
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Ok, so I´ve found these diagrams:
ibanezhss5wayoj0.jpg

riiight.jpg

Are they OK? Which is better? Which should I use? I think I should use the second one, the first one has two wires that are soldered to the switch or something, which for me is confusing, and also needs two caps. What do you think?
 
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Those wiring diagrams are most likely using standard 5 way strat style wiring diagrams. Maybe you are best off buying a new 5 way strat style switch and working with that..
 
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LonePhantom said:
Those wiring diagrams are most likely using standard 5 way strat style wiring diagrams. Maybe you are best off buying a new 5 way strat style switch and working with that..
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Yeah maybe you're right. Well, thanks for your help anyway.
 
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