Impulse buy: Gibson EB Bass

ItsaBass

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I am not one who often makes impulse buys, or who often buys guitars sight unseen. But today I am. I just happened to come across a Musician's Friend opened-box old stock 2013 Gibson EB Bass while messing around online. I'm kinda bored with my P and Musicmaster, and I have a bit of extra money at the moment, so I figured what the hell. At $700, I thought the price was pretty fair, considering that it was described as "mint," and it has a hardshell case.

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I was kind of "nyeh" on these when they came out, but they've grown on me. I like the electronics on them (dual humbuckers with coil splitting push/pulls), and they have a nice bridge (Babicz). The price combined with the gorgeous and classic satin white/tortoise nitro combo just sold me. I also think the ash body with maple set neck is a potentially cool thing – Fender style woods, but with a set neck instead of a bolt on.

I have a G&L L-2000 that has a similar pickup configuration, but it's fretless. While fretless was what I learned on, and the only thing I played on for nearly 20 years, I grew to love frets eventually. Now fretless really isn't something I play AT ALL any more. So the G&L, with its great pickups, sits. Over the years, I've considered getting a fretted neck for the G&L (I've had it since '96 or '97). But I think I'm gonna try out this Gibson instead.

...and yes, I do have mods planned. Those ugly-ass tuners have to go, and I just happen to have an extra brand new set of Hipshot Ultralite Cloverleafs sitting here. They are 4-in-line at the moment, but they are reversible. Also, I will be converting to V/T/T (with the push/pulls on the tones), and adding a three-way switch. I will also be adding a Fender thumb rest, and possibly a bridge cover at some point (if I can find one that goes well with the bass).

The thing I dislike about the style most: the 2x2 headstock. I'd prefer a 4-in-line, maybe with the Epi batwing shape or the reverse or non-reverse Firebird shape.
 
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I'll be interested to read your opinions of it after you have had a chance to play it for a while.
 
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And hey, if you don't like it you can always re sell it. And at $700, you shouldn't have a problem making a profit or at least making your money back
 
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It's nice that Gibson didn't put an oversize HB right at the base of the fretboard on this one.
 
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Cool, but I think I would have much rather spent another buck- or buck fifty on this instead;

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Cool, but I think I would have much rather spent another buck-or buck fifty on this instead


SG's are beautiful basses, but that huge neck HB was a bad idea from day one (especially on a short scale), and they haven't changed it yet. Putting a normal HB or mini-HB in the middle slot instead would make it a far more desirable bass to a lot of players. That should have happened over 50 years ago.
 
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I didn't even like the full-scale one I had for 10 years. I kept wanting to and wanting to...but couldn't. I eventually loaned it to a friend for about 6 years, then got it back just to play it a few gigs, and then sell it. They just don't feel good or sound good to me. The short neck ones are even worse. The vintage Gibson ones are no better, and possibly worse due to wear and tear.

The reason I like this newer EB is because it's more Fenderesque. It's basically classic Fender-style woods, but with a set neck instead of a bolt on, and more modern pickups (though it is basically just a Jazz Bass layout with humbuckers instead of single coils). It's my attempt to get a bass that is a bit more modern electronically (like my G&L), yet which has frets (unlike my G&L).

At any rate, I should be picking it up from UPS tomorrow.
 
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The reason I like this newer EB is because it's more Fenderesque. It's basically classic Fender-style woods, but with a set neck instead of a bolt on, and more modern pickups (though it is basically just a Jazz Bass layout with humbuckers instead of single coils).


That's the first thing I thought when I saw one earlier this year, and that's a good thing. Leo and company talked to a lot of players in coming up with the Precision and Jazz, and set the world standard for great basses. A bass maker has to have very good reasons for straying too far from Fender's designs, and apparently Gibson didn't think things thru very well with the SG bass, and it was never any competition. Besides the EB bass, I think the other shining star in Gibson basses is the Thunderbird, also strongly influenced by Fender. When someone just about perfects something, pay attention to what they did.
 
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SG's are beautiful basses, but that huge neck HB was a bad idea from day one (especially on a short scale), and they haven't changed it yet. Putting a normal HB or mini-HB in the middle slot instead would make it a far more desirable bass to a lot of players. That should have happened over 50 years ago.

I agree ^^^.

The first bass I ever bought (I still have all my basses) was a '69 Gibson EB-1.

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I was too young to know any better, liked the shape because I started on violin and upright bass, and the price was right. I used it only until I found something I liked more. No matter what amp I've used it's just way too muddy. I keep it only for sentimental value.
 
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The first bass I ever bought (I still have all my basses) was a '69 Gibson EB-1. I was too young to know any better, liked the shape because I started on violin and upright bass, and the price was right. I used it only until I found something I liked more. No matter what amp I've used it's just way too muddy. I keep it only for sentimental value.


They totally ignored the research and work Leo had done, at their peril. What a terrible place for a big PU, no wonder that model bombed out. Didn't they have bass players try out prototypes before they put them into production? Weren't those first made in the mid 1950's, and isn't that where Hofner got the idea for their violin basses? What's the scale on yours?
 
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Weren't those first made in the mid 1950's, and isn't that where Hofner got the idea for their violin basses? What's the scale on yours?

My understanding is that were indeed first made in the late 50s and reintroduced it 1969. I bought mine in 1975. It's short scale, which is another reason I don't like it. I have long arms and it just feels way too short (as does my Mustang, but that's at least playable IMO). It also weighs a ton (solid mahogany), which usually doesn't bother me, but with the strap button at the 19th fret this baby dives like nothing else.

And yes--I have always heard that the Hofner "Beatle bass" was based on this.

Mine does have a pickguard, which I have somewhere among my musical odds and ends.

I play it at most every few years.
 
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I picked it up today. Not sure if I'll be keeping it. It is a cool design which had potential, but it is pretty much built like **** on a stick. My Korean Epi EB-3 was a better built instrument at half the cost, and that's pretty bad, as I had a few quality complaints about it too. I'll have to decide over the next few days if it is really worth $760-something dollars to me, plus mods.

The body sanding is absolutely abysmal. Sharp lines where there should be roundovers. Dips and rises in the wood. The pickup rout on the pickguard is misplaced. The fretboard edges are rough and sharp. The nut is awful, like it just got slapped on straight off of the boat from China, with no real fitment or shaping. The setup is complete garbage - the lightest strings imaginable set as low as is possible to get anything resembling a note out of the thing. The finish work is bad. The lacquer is thick and uneven. The masking lines are rough. There is crap in the finish in the areas where the neck meets the top of the body.

What a disappointment. Now I know why it was an open box. Some poor bastard must have spend $900 or $1,000 on it, then thrown a **** fit when it arrived, and then ate the shipping just to get it out of his sight. I don't know why I even try with Gibson or Musician's Friend any more. This thing should have been sent back to Gibson by MF as soon as it was received. Until MF starts doing that, Gibson's quality will remain what it is: worse than it has ever been before.

It does look good from a distance; I'll give it that.

I'll jack up the strings and plug it into an amp at some point this weekend. If it sounds promising, I may just keep it. If I do, I'll be smoothing over the crappy fretboard edges, spiffing up the nut, and setting it up with .110 flats. I'll also be touching up the crap around the neck joint and putting some black underneath the pickup rout where the white shows through. If it sounds great, I'll begrudgingly keep it and work with its flaws in workmanship. But if it ends up needing help sonically, back it goes, without a second thought.

This is why I dislike buying online. This is why I don't normally make impulse buys. This is why I no longer buy new Gibsons. This is why I don't normally buy instruments from Musician's Friend. Every now and then I try these things, and I pretty much always regret not following my own good advice.

Hopefully I can make this bass worth it in the end, as I really do love the way it looks, and I really do want to try incorporating a fretted dual pickup bass into my arsenal.

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That's a real shame coz is does look pretty cool, hope you can get it to work for you.
 
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One bad Gibson doesn't mean they are all bad. Besides, you're talking about a low end Gibson at best that was an open box. Not sure if you should have expected a great instrument to begin with at that price being an open box.
 
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